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Author:  Mordikaiser [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  WTB Monomi: Ichi

Name your (reasonable) Price.

If you're also a clothcrafter I'll also buy a hefty amount of tools from you.

Author:  Cilarnen [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

Outaru of curiosity, how much would you guys pay for monomi? I have only 5mil on me but I'd drop it for that.

Author:  Concepcion [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

if that was the only scroll, perhaps. But if there’s a supply starting to flow in, I’m finding it myself or waiting for the price to fall.

Author:  Wolffhardt [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

Mordikaiser wrote:
Name your (reasonable) Price.

If you're also a clothcrafter I'll also buy a hefty amount of tools from you.



Which tools? I can help with that.

Author:  Mordikaiser [ Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

Cilarnen wrote:
Outaru of curiosity, how much would you guys pay for monomi? I have only 5mil on me but I'd drop it for that.



Just doing a cost breakdown, I'd probably pay in the 300k-500k ballpark.

My rationale is that tools are 8g a minute for sneak vs 450~600g (less for me if I want to synth them but I don't) a minute for silent oil. However, there is an upper limit to what is reasonable in terms of recouping that time. If I offered 5mil for it, I'd have to cast it literally 8300 times to break even vs silent oils. The issue with that, is that it would take years for me to see the benefit of the investment. On the other hand at a 300k price point, itd take closer to 500 casts, and that could be recouped within a year. This also ignores the fact of any time I'm not using NIN in any capacity, as well as any pertinent downtime where there is no need for sneak to begin with. This further diminishes the value of the scroll. Thankfully, unlike with mana based casting its very easy to cost out sneak vs silent oil in this case.


@wolfhardt The monomi tools.

Author:  Wolffhardt [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

Well I can certainly make the monomi tools for you, but if someone has it and is considering selling it: I’ll pay 10x what he is.

Author:  lockecole777 [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

Mordikaiser wrote:
Cilarnen wrote:
Outaru of curiosity, how much would you guys pay for monomi? I have only 5mil on me but I'd drop it for that.



Just doing a cost breakdown, I'd probably pay in the 300k-500k ballpark.

My rationale is that tools are 8g a minute for sneak vs 450~600g (less for me if I want to synth them but I don't) a minute for silent oil. However, there is an upper limit to what is reasonable in terms of recouping that time. If I offered 5mil for it, I'd have to cast it literally 8300 times to break even vs silent oils. The issue with that, is that it would take years for me to see the benefit of the investment. On the other hand at a 300k price point, itd take closer to 500 casts, and that could be recouped within a year. This also ignores the fact of any time I'm not using NIN in any capacity, as well as any pertinent downtime where there is no need for sneak to begin with. This further diminishes the value of the scroll. Thankfully, unlike with mana based casting its very easy to cost out sneak vs silent oil in this case.


@wolfhardt The monomi tools.


I think you fail to see the value in something that most others dont have.

Author:  disposablehero [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

i think if someone was willing to pay 6-10m people would test the rest of the bcnms.

Author:  Mordikaiser [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

lockecole777 wrote:
Mordikaiser wrote:
Cilarnen wrote:
Outaru of curiosity, how much would you guys pay for monomi? I have only 5mil on me but I'd drop it for that.



Just doing a cost breakdown, I'd probably pay in the 300k-500k ballpark.

My rationale is that tools are 8g a minute for sneak vs 450~600g (less for me if I want to synth them but I don't) a minute for silent oil. However, there is an upper limit to what is reasonable in terms of recouping that time. If I offered 5mil for it, I'd have to cast it literally 8300 times to break even vs silent oils. The issue with that, is that it would take years for me to see the benefit of the investment. On the other hand at a 300k price point, itd take closer to 500 casts, and that could be recouped within a year. This also ignores the fact of any time I'm not using NIN in any capacity, as well as any pertinent downtime where there is no need for sneak to begin with. This further diminishes the value of the scroll. Thankfully, unlike with mana based casting its very easy to cost out sneak vs silent oil in this case.


@wolfhardt The monomi tools.


I think you fail to see the value in something that most others dont have.



There is no value. Its sneak. Everyone has sneak. If other people are willing to pay more, more power to them. I want it because its a tiny bit more convenient and less costly over a great length of time. For those reasons I don't feel compelled to spend 3m-5m on it. Its fine, there will always bee more silent oils. Something being rare doesn't inherently add value to it.

Author:  Kazen [ Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi

Mordikaiser wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
Mordikaiser wrote:


Just doing a cost breakdown, I'd probably pay in the 300k-500k ballpark.

My rationale is that tools are 8g a minute for sneak vs 450~600g (less for me if I want to synth them but I don't) a minute for silent oil. However, there is an upper limit to what is reasonable in terms of recouping that time. If I offered 5mil for it, I'd have to cast it literally 8300 times to break even vs silent oils. The issue with that, is that it would take years for me to see the benefit of the investment. On the other hand at a 300k price point, itd take closer to 500 casts, and that could be recouped within a year. This also ignores the fact of any time I'm not using NIN in any capacity, as well as any pertinent downtime where there is no need for sneak to begin with. This further diminishes the value of the scroll. Thankfully, unlike with mana based casting its very easy to cost out sneak vs silent oil in this case.


@wolfhardt The monomi tools.


I think you fail to see the value in something that most others dont have.



There is no value. Its sneak. Everyone has sneak. If other people are willing to pay more, more power to them. I want it because its a tiny bit more convenient and less costly over a great length of time. For those reasons I don't feel compelled to spend 3m-5m on it. Its fine, there will always bee more silent oils. Something being rare doesn't inherently add value to it.


So you have no knowledge of the concept, supply and demand. Good to hear. People have offered me 10M to find Monomi for them so good luck to you.

disposablehero wrote:
i think if someone was willing to pay 6-10m people would test the rest of the bcnms.


Lolwut

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