Cilarnen wrote:
(For those that don't know) day, moon, and direction all play a roll in synthesis on nasomi. For detailed information, you can read about it on the naswiki under crafting. The tl;dr is darksday or opposing crystal day raises the crafting difficulty by 1 (e.g. -1 crafting skill), moon varies raising difficulty to 1 up to lowering difficulty to 1; +1 difficulty (-1 skill) at new moon, no effect at 50% moon, to -1 difficulty (+1 skill) at full moon. (76% moon is equivalent to -.5 difficulty, but this isn't needed until you try breaking HQ tiers).
Facing the opposing crystal direction raises difficulty by 0.5 (- 0.5 skill), facing the supporting crystal direction lowers difficulty by 0.5 (+0.5 skill).
Basically, synth for skillups on darksday or the opposing crystal day(e.g iceday using wind crystal) to increase your skill gap between current skill and recipe cap. Skillup rate and frequency of .2s .3s .4s etc is based off of your skill gap, the higher the gap the higher the rate and potency of skillups.
Try to synth on 50% or less moon for up to a +1 difficulty (increases skill gap) to increase rate and potency of skillups. Moon matters less pre-level ~80 because the skill-up rate is so high and the materials are so cheap (you can even synth on neutral days if you want to power it low levels).
Face the opposing direction.
Skill-up rate on desynthesis is half the rate of normal synthesis(I might be wrong on this). Desynth with lightning crystal. On recipes that desynth, it's ideal to craft only on darksday to get both the synth and desynth bonus.
As long as you are within 5 "real" skill of the recipe (real skill is your skill under menu + adv/reg support) you can get skill-ups on breaks, skill-up on breaks being 50% of the rate of skill-ups on success.
0-3 Cape, synth 1 cape then desynth 1 cap. lv0-1 use advanced support, lv2 use regular support.
earth crystal, 1x grass thread, 2x grass cloth
3-10 Hachimaki, synth 1 hachimaki then desynth it. lv3-4 use advanced support, lv5 use regular support, lv6-10 no support.
wind crystal, 2x grass cloth
10-14 Kenpogi, synth 1 then desynth it. lv10-11 use advanced support, lvl12 use regular support, lv13-14 no support.
earth crystal, 1x grass thread, 3x grass cloth
14-22 Yagudo Fletchings. You'll actually take these to cap (important to be on ice or darkday with low% moon for the last 1-2 levels) because they're dirt cheap. lv14-15 use advanced support, lvl16 use regular support, lv17-22 no support.
wind crystal, 2x yagudo feather
22-26 Heko obi, synth 1 then desynth it. lv22-26 you don't use any support, try for low% moon 25-26 for faster skillups.
earth crystal, 1x grass thread, 2x cotton cloth
26-34 Shinobi-tabi. You take these to cap too because they sell for profit on the ah over time. lv26-27 use advanced support, lv28 use regular support, lv29-34 no support, again low% moon for lv33-34 helps a ton.
earth crystal, 1x saruta cotton, 1x grass thread, 2x cotton cloth
34-42 Bird Fletching. You take these to cap too because they're dirt cheap. lv34-35 use advanced support, lv36 use regular support, lv37-42 no support. Low% moon helps a ton 41-42.
wind crystal, 2x bird feather
42-44 Velvet cloth. Use the 2x cotton thread recipe. lv42-43 use advanced support.
earth crystal, 1x silk thread, 2x cotton thread
44-52 Insect Fletchings. You take these to cap too because they're dirt cheap. lv44-45 use advanced support, lvl46 use regular support, lv47-52 use no support.
wind crystal, 2x insect wing
There's two options to get to 60 cap, Black Mitts is technically cheaper by about 1k a synth, but Green Ribbons are 10x easier to gather materials. You'll probably have to do Black Mitts for 1-2 levels anyway (depending if you get crafting glasses)
52-60 Black Mitts. IIrc these can't desynth, but they do npc for almost break-even. lv52-53 use advanced support, lv54 use regular support, lv54-60 no support. Low% moon help a ton 59-60.
earth crystal, 1x saruta cotton, 1x velvet cloth, 1x linen cloth, 1x silver thread
You can desynth linen cloth with a wind crystal + tonberry coat, yields 1-2 linen cloth. Desynth on ice or darkday for a 33% bonus hq rate, and on 50% or lower moon for a 0-33% bonus hq rate, e.g. iceday 0% moon = +66% hq rate (tier1 is 10% hq, tier1 on iceday/0% moon is 16~%, tier2 is 30% hq, tier2 on iceday/0% moon is 48~% hq) I don't remember the level of tonberry coat offhand, can't look it up at the moment.
54-60 Green Ribbon, synth 1 then desynth. lv54-55 use advanced support, lvl56 use regular support, 57-60 no support. These actually cap at 62 so if you're stopping at 60, you don't need to both with low moon.
earth crystal, 1x silk cloth(3x silk thread+earth crystal)
Everything can be found at the guild or AH, it's not worth your time farming clothcraft materials. (outside of maybe tonberry coats)
I'd like to start out by saying thank you for contributing this additional guide. It helps the player community greatly to know all the benificial alternative ways to achieve the goal of obtaining that next level in crafting. While I do understand this method is effective, in my own personal experiences crafting, I chose to present my own method of straight Crystal to material form of skilling up. Reason being is, the vast majority of skill ups obtained through Desynthesis is largely 0.1 per attempt when the skill up actually takes place with the common 0.2 skill up occurring when you are at 0.8/0.9 into the level itself. That 0.2 pushes the next level obtained. Then it's back to 0.1's again. In my method, you receive 0.2/0.3/0.4 skill up as a common. Just the other day I went 10 Lvls in roughly 2.5hrs vs the Desynthing Butterfly Axes to achieve 1 level in 1 hour. Using your method allows the crafter to break down the item made back into materials. My method allows the crafter to npc the item made at a near break even cost to be able to repurchase additional materials for the next synth (rinse repeat). I see both methods as being a viable way to achieve success. The one thing I don't agree with is telling people not to farm materials as this serves no positive outcome for a new starting player with no Gil to begin crafting. Not everyone in this game has a Gil tree in their Moghouse to blow on auction house mats. Other then that, thank you for posting your guide.
My guide has been moved to the official WikNas page. I also acknowledged your guide as an excellent source in the method of Desynthesis for skill ups and directed them to this post for further information.