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 Post subject: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:18 pm 
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Hey all just wondering if these rare/ex gloves drop off the NM in Castle on Nasomi or if it's still the normal Ochiudo's Kote. I don't recall when this was changed in retail version and if those changes are replicated here.

I did see the Ochimusha Kote drop from an OWNM but it is level 60 and requires an experienced group to take down (least from the Nasomi page). Since i'm still a noob that has no LS or much gil i'm not sure what my best options would be.

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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:22 pm 
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All NM drops here are the non r/e drops.

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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:22 pm 
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Which is a huge mistake that disincentivizes participating in BCNMs or OWNMs, and rewards botters, campers, and harassing behavior.


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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:38 pm 
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Moglin wrote:
Which is a huge mistake that disincentivizes participating in BCNMs or OWNMs, and rewards botters, campers, and harassing behavior.

The whole point of these rare drop NMs is camping.

Botters get banned. Easily. Just report them.

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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:05 pm 
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So then what is the point in BCNMs since the sellable loot from them is on regular NMs? Why do Divine Punishers when you can solo camp a level 35 NM uncapped and with your pocket heals all week? It really takes away from community building imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:40 pm 
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Moglin wrote:
So then what is the point in BCNMs since the sellable loot from them is on regular NMs? Why do Divine Punishers when you can solo camp a level 35 NM uncapped and with your pocket heals all week? It really takes away from community building imo.

You don't have to camp a BCNM.

I don't get it.. these are retail mechanics. This is a server meant to play like retail.

NM drops were all originally non r/e in retail. Only a very unpopular patch made them r/e.

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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:48 pm 
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Not all NM drops were non R/E. It's possible that I'm remembering things incorrectly, but my opinion remains the same. Having loot that is Rare/EX (Ochimusha Kote) be non Rare/EX while still having the non Rare/EX version (Ochiudo's Kote) in game is baffling.


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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:17 pm 
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Moglin wrote:
Not all NM drops were non R/E. It's possible that I'm remembering things incorrectly, but my opinion remains the same. Having loot that is Rare/EX (Ochimusha Kote) be non Rare/EX while still having the non Rare/EX version (Ochiudo's Kote) in game is baffling.

Wat.

You're remembering incorrectly -and- misunderstanding.

All NMs drop the non r/e equivalent.

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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:27 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Wat.

You're remembering incorrectly -and- misunderstanding.

All NMs drop the non r/e equivalent.


Ochimusha drops off an NM in Castle Oztroja and is EX. Ochiudo drops off a BCNM and is non-EX. Bounding Boots drop off of Leaping Lizzy and are EX. Leaping Boots drop off a BCNM and are non-EX. What is the point in doing BCNM if the loot drops off of low level mobs?


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 Post subject: Re: Ochimusha Kote
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:11 pm 
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Moglin wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Wat.

You're remembering incorrectly -and- misunderstanding.

All NMs drop the non r/e equivalent.


Ochimusha drops off an NM in Castle Oztroja and is EX. Ochiudo drops off a BCNM and is non-EX. Bounding Boots drop off of Leaping Lizzy and are EX. Leaping Boots drop off a BCNM and are non-EX. What is the point in doing BCNM if the loot drops off of low level mobs?

No..

Castle O NM drops the tradable one.
UNTRADABLE drops from BCNM.
Leaping lizzy drops the tradable one.
UNTRADABLE drops from BCNM.

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