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Author:  Tahtertaht [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
which is better for sleep? thxs in advance
Author:  Seij [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
Enfeebling +15.

General rule of thumb is to prioritize Enfeebling Skill > Magic Accuracy > INT/MND when spell accuracy is a concern. While INT/MND may give some magic accuracy, they are mostly used for increasing spell potency. Since Sleep is a fixed effect (mob can't be more or less asleep), focusing on accuracy is best (spell duration is a function of spell accuracy).
Author:  Rockets [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
On retail at least, as far as magic accuracy goes it's 1 skill = 1 macc, so that's simple at least.

For stats, it depends on what you're fighting. If you have at least 10~15 points more of the relevant stat than the mob has, it's also 1 stat = 1 macc. If the mob has stacked stats (read: it's a NM, or maybe an IT caster mob in an xp group) then you only get 0.5 macc per 1 stat. EDIT: this was wrong, see below. Stats also improve the strength of the effect, which is why you typically see this kind of 10 stat vs 15 skill tradeoff on gear, but as mentioned sleep doesn't have a strength -- it's either active or it's not.

So yeah even in the best case it's 1=1=1 as far as macc goes, so as the others have said +15 skill beats +10 stats every time for Sleep.
Author:  Cilarnen [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
Rockets wrote:
On retail at least, as far as magic accuracy goes it's 1 skill = 1 macc, so that's simple at least.

For stats, it depends on what you're fighting. If you have at least 10~15 points more of the relevant stat than the mob has, it's also 1 stat = 1 macc. If the mob has stacked stats (read: it's a NM, or maybe an IT caster mob in an xp group) then you only get 0.5 macc per 1 stat. Stats also improve the strength of the effect, which is why you typically see this kind of 10 stat vs 15 skill tradeoff on gear, but as mentioned sleep doesn't have a strength -- it's either active or it's not.

So yeah even in the best case it's 1=1=1 as far as macc goes, so as the others have said +15 skill beats +10 stats every time for Sleep.


Pretty sure you have it backwards. IIRC it's 1 stat = 1 macc if dInt is 10 or less. when dint>10 then 1 stat is only 0.5 macc.
Author:  Rockets [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
Cilarnen wrote:
Pretty sure you have it backwards. IIRC it's 1 stat = 1 macc if dInt is 10 or less. when dint>10 then 1 stat is only 0.5 macc.

Ah yeah, you're right, I was going off the dstat number but got the values flipped.

Specifically from the wiki, it's
Quote:
+1 Stat = +1 Magic Accuracy until dSTAT > 10~15 at which point +1 Stat = +0.5 Magic Accuracy

where dStat = Caster's stat - Target's stat
Author:  Zero [ Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
there's a reason why duelist chapeau is the best :)

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Author:  Aramiltaru [ Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
Zero wrote:
there's a reason why duelist chapeau is the best :)

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Considering there's no INT+10 head for RDM, I'd guess this debate had to be between Warlock's Tabard and Crimson Scale Mail or Errant Houppelande.
Author:  Zero [ Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: INT +10 or enfeebling +15?
debate like its 2005!
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