I just had a 4xBst party on bombs in Garlaige this weekend. Went amazing. We did look for a couple smn to no avail but we still steam rolled through 2 levels in just around an hour or so. It was great xp and no down time.

We all went bst/whm

What level? Add it to the camps post!

As a person who is relatively new to Nasomi but was experienced with BST on retail (1st job to 75, played it for quite a bit of content) I was wondering if anything has changed with the debate about Light/Apollo's Staff vs. CHR (Signa)?

I recognize that Nasomi is different from retail but it seems odd that Nas would actually just alter this coding from retail specifically without any explanation. Furthermore, the only evidence being offered that the staves don't work is "I've been on this server for longer that anyone else, that's just how it is". You may be right, but confirmation bias is also a thing. Has anyone actually tested it? Charm cooldown is quite short, someone who has access to both a Staff and a Signa could find T or VT mobs by a zone wall and do 200 (or w/e you deem statistically significant) attempted charms using a staff vs signa and no other CHR gear and we could see what the data says.

My intent here is not to start a flame war and this isn't a personal attack. Just as someone with a background in science, claims supported by evidence and data are much more credible than opinion, and if you have no data, all you actually have is an opinion. Has anyone ever done any testing? If not, is anyone interested? I'm not far enough along on Nasomi or I would do it myself.

Thanks in advance for your open-mindedness!

"2018-07-16 Maintenance

The following has been adjusted:

BLU AF NPC fixed
BLU TP adjusted
Certain crash scenarios fixed
Flying Wyrm EVA adjusted
Mob WS animation fixed
Charm message fixed
Chat/Iridal Charm added (It's believed that he also meant Apollo/Light, as those seem to make a difference now as well)
SMN rebuilt from the ground up
• Avatar stats/traits/resistances
• Avatar melee damage calculations
• BP revamped
• BP Skillchains added
Synth bug fixed
Autoclaim rewrite
Atropos Orb KSNM's have been added"

Moreover, checking a certain code database that shall not be named, would also provide you with the information you would have needed to know that charm was not given any consideration when the staves were initially coded for the private servers.

Isn't "Charm" the duration of effect (length of time), not success (whether you "stick" the charm in the first place)? I appreciate your research, but, unless I am mistaken, it would seem like these are two separate things were are talking about.

Nasomi writes things innaccurately all the time. There is another thread where someone did testing somewhat recently and it showed a pretty clear percentage increase in charm success rate when using one of the staves.