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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:40 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Let's break this down point by point.

zendiime wrote:
Challenge: Eliminate gil sellers from /shouting in cities

Reason: It's annoying

Possible Solution #1
Only player's that are level 10 can use the /shout function.

Pros: Takes longer for gil seller accounts to be able to use the /shout function possibly slowing down the /shouts
Gil sellers might give up but probably not

Cons: New players can no longer ask for assistance via /shout when leveling up from 1-10
New players might quit after a few levels because they are alone during a crucial part of their FFXI experience.


Really, what are you shouting at levels 1-10 for besides gil/items/random help that can be sent through tell? Give me something that will actually have a negative impact(not a minor inconvenience) on newer players and I may change my stance.

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Possible solution #2
Add Gil sellers to your blacklist

Pros: Immediate removal of gil seller /shouts
Does not impede the progress or experience of newly created characters

Cons: Gil sellers just make new accounts causing you to have to constantly add new people to your blacklist


Except Blacklist doesn't work properly here. I've added people to my blist, log off/on and they're no longer there. Same with zoning.

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Possible Solution #3

Accept the fact that gil sellers are going to exist as they do in every MMO

Pros: You no longer worry about gil seller shouts
This thread dies
Cons: Gil sellers still /shout


And Square decides to send a C&D to Nasomi because people have monetized their IP. We lose everything and have to go find another game to play.

I'd rather Nasomi take steps to curb people monetizing the server in a trackable way than say "Oh RMT are in every MMO, they'll be here too, get over it."

Edit: The reason I want to remove the gilseller shouts is so the server doesn't get shutdown, not because "they're annoying".



Hey bro chill. I'm just trying to add + and - to solutions.

Edit: Your Edit #2 made me lol


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:42 pm 
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zendiime wrote:
Hey bro chill. I'm just trying to add + and - to solutions.


And I'm just responding to each of your points made, is that not what forums are for?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:43 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
zendiime wrote:
Hey bro chill. I'm just trying to add + and - to solutions.


And I'm just responding to each of your points made, is that not what forums are for?


Yes, keep being constructive. Carry on.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:18 pm 
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Zaroua wrote:
Hollow wrote:
I was thinking that maybe /sh could have a filter, so they can't tell ya about the website. Just keep adding whatever they come up with over time, until they can't give address of website. However the level requirement is a much better idea. If a mule needs a shout, could always ask someone running around for help with a shout.


W &"/$? T *@¤¬³² S _-__-- GIL \/\/W--\/\/ D0T µBU(Y)M[[MO D0T ¢0M



Now add W T S and GIL and special symbols, keep going until the sellers can't shout. Dunno if it's possible to do to certain areas or not. I think the level requirement is a great idea either way.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:06 pm 
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What if we the people take the onus upon ourselves? What can we as individuals do to fight the gil sellers? Has anyone visited their website and, hypothetically, see if any exploits can be used to halt their illegal business practices? Can we spam their inbox with utter shit until they are the ones having to deal with us? I'm just spit balling...


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:34 pm 
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Has anyone reported the names to nas? Seems like he's been taking a very active approach to RMT in the past, but he can't be everywhere all the time. He said he always welcomes player reports and reads everything, even if it's not right away.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:29 pm 
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Mildew wrote:
halt their illegal business practices?
just because something is against a company's/server's TOS doesn't make it illegal


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:07 am 
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rocl wrote:
Mildew wrote:
halt their illegal business practices?
just because something is against a company's/server's TOS doesn't make it illegal


Okay... "actionable business practices." Let's be honest capitalism rules these United States.


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