I don't have much to add after what Wolf has said about comparing the situations. I don't think they're exact matches, but they're pretty close. For me, Agony being snarky doesn't seem particularly relevant as to whether or not the actions of other people were against the rules. They don't say 'You can't intentionally MPK people (unless they're dicks and then they totally deserve it)"

Y'all didn't mouth off to Rixx or anything, and Agony did mouth off to these guys, but I largely just don't think it's relevant.


This is fair, and my intent wasn't to say that TS all behaves like this or all of TS is here to take the opposite side of things. Just saying that I saw a handful of TS people posting in this thread that were either posting in the Rixx threads or were involved in the Rixx situation that seem to be, at least from how I am interpreting things, taking a fairly divergent viewpoint on issues that seem quite similar to me.

Everybody views shit through a different lens, though.

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So you've never competed for XP mobs with another party? Because fundamentally that's all that happened here, with some added mouthing off. They weren't camping literally on top of the other party - they were a good ways away.

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What a shitty opinion.

We live in a world that has different ranges of bad. Breaking the rules because your feelings are hurt isn’t acceptable.

If your feelings are hurt, there are a myriad of ways to get back at someone that hurts their feelings without breaking the rules. We've all been pretty big jackasses to Zigma at this point, and I don't think anyone would say it's okay for him to use a bot because we were all so mean to him.

Grow up. People are mean to other people in the world, you can be mean back.. not rob their house.

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Lol. Yet Bigjoey still walks free after MPKing Seagrave (SS proven)? Why is that?
Could it be that Nas only bans for people "MPK" when TS complains?

I don't think there's any denying that people act irrationally in the heat of the moment and in the real world, as you like to say, there are differing degrees of punishment for premeditated actions versus aggravated actions.

Is it acceptable to murder someone? No. But is there a difference between someone getting in a bar brawl and killing someone because some dude was grabbing his wife's ass versus someone sneaking into your house with the expressed intent to murder you? Yes.

Not talking right versus wrong here

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If you can point me to the last person that was punished in a way other than jailing their character, I'd consider that true.. Since that doesn't exist in quite a while, certainly not for MPK'ing, I don't think that's the parallel.

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See, that's the problem. If it comes down to a binary ban or no ban for this particular MPK, I'd personally let it slide this once.

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That's definitely your right, I'd just renew my request to have some sort of guide or rubric to explain all of the completely valid and legal behaviors that excuse completely invalid and illegal behaviors in the eyes of the law here.


Nas, on the other hand, doesn't seem to agree with you.

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Players that choose not to follow the rules will receive a minimum penalty of loss of character. Greater exploits will result in a loss of characters linked by IP and/or banning of IP. The reason for this is the time wasted on players who choose not to follow the rules has a direct impact on further development, bug fixes, and QoL enhancements. Players that choose to play fairly should not be subject to delays of these features because players players cannot or will not play fairly.

Maybe you're right. Maybe he should just receive the minimum penalty of losing his character involved, in this instance

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Want me to develop? Fine.

This current case is bullying born from racism.

i sincerely doubt that group hates Americans enough to call it racism.

i'm pretty sure they just MPK'd them because they're regular assholes

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