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| Author: | Haddy [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Assassin's Charge |
Moved the question here so it is no longer on the old merit point thread: I have yet to see a Quadruple Attack take place while using Assassin's Charge. I know some merits aren't era specific, but for this one, 1 merit puts you at the minimum recast from the era (as if 5 merits were already dumped into it), but seemingly does not open quadruple attack. I did some basic science on it out of about 50 weapon skills on a bird party and never saw anything more than a triple attack TP return. Anyone else able to confirm that is true? I assume if true, the same could be assumed about Warrior's Charge and the out of era triple attack effect it would grant. |
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| Author: | Kazen [ Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
That thread was from 2 years ago, I believe it is working but haven't fully tested myself. The group 2 merits for some jobs are not correct to the "era". |
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| Author: | Esselsis [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
I've noticed the same. 1 merit puts Assassin's charge at minimum recast, and I have never experienced tp return for a quadruple attack. Still sitting at 5/5 Assassin's charge, but likely won't leave it there unless someone can offer proof that the quadruple attack is for real. |
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| Author: | Dancer [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
Esselsis wrote: I've noticed the same. 1 merit puts Assassin's charge at minimum recast, and I have never experienced tp return for a quadruple attack. Still sitting at 5/5 Assassin's charge, but likely won't leave it there unless someone can offer proof that the quadruple attack is for real. Use it and then auto attack .... ? |
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| Author: | Esselsis [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
That would definitely be a way to test it, I've just not yet gotten to the point that I want to spend my time doing it that way (likely will sometime soon though, if i'm seriously considering dropping merit points from it). It should be fairly obvious that it procs in a ws based on tp return though - unless it's coded wrong which is possible, and in a merit party I've never wanted to waste my assassin's charge to gain tp when I can use it to put a mob on blast. |
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| Author: | Haddy [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
Part of the reason I focused on WS TP return is that most people only stack it with weapon skills for that spike damage. Hence why I mentioned the TP return versus just swinging 4 times. If it's not giving a TP return for a 4 hit, then it is defeating the purpose and Aura Steal or Ambush might be more valuable (imo). |
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| Author: | Esselsis [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
I agree, stacking with ws is really the best way to use it, which is why I hadn't tested if it works on auto attacks. However, I suppose it's not entirely impossible that it is quad attacking occasionally on ws and only giving tp return for a triple attack - which is why the auto attack testing is a solid idea...it just takes some time that I've never wanted to invest into checking...although assuming I find the time I will give it some attempts over the weekend to see if it ever quad attacks on regular attacks. |
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| Author: | Ase [ Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
I used to produce triple attacks from warriors charge with 5/5(thats how I tested/decided to 5/5 it), haven't tested it in a while or payed attention to tp returns lately, perhaps there was a change, like Esselsis, maybe I'll get around to it one day, but i still think my blu test are incomplete(maybe always will be) |
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| Author: | Dancer [ Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
it guarantees a quad attack, it doesn't guarantee that all quad hits land. |
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| Author: | Haddy [ Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Assassin's Charge |
^ Yea, I understand how it works. No real explanation for missing quad attack if I've got a "25%" chance on it every activation with plenty of accuracy. 100+ weapon skills is a bit large of a sample to assume they all missed. I will play around with it a little bit more next week with and without weapon skills and post data. |
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