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Author:  olivetree23 [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Blue Mage As a subjob
Hey I'm about to hit 30 and ive been thinking of some class combo's, do you thing RNG/BLU, or BLU/RNG would work
Author:  Zadok [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
olivetree23 wrote:
Hey I'm about to hit 30 and ive been thinking of some class combo's, do you thing RNG/BLU, or BLU/RNG would work


No these two job combinations will not work well. The meta in FFXI has been crucible-forged and rigid for good reason.

RNG and BLU both almost universally use /NIN.
Author:  olivetree23 [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
Zadok wrote:
olivetree23 wrote:
Hey I'm about to hit 30 and ive been thinking of some class combo's, do you thing RNG/BLU, or BLU/RNG would work


No these two job combinations will not work well. The meta in FFXI has been crucible-forged and rigid for good reason.

RNG and BLU both almost universally use /NIN.

what about using either one as a subjob for war, or thf?
Author:  Concepcion [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
War/Blu cocoon tank
Author:  Mordikaiser [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
olivetree23 wrote:
Zadok wrote:
olivetree23 wrote:
Hey I'm about to hit 30 and ive been thinking of some class combo's, do you thing RNG/BLU, or BLU/RNG would work


No these two job combinations will not work well. The meta in FFXI has been crucible-forged and rigid for good reason.

RNG and BLU both almost universally use /NIN.

what about using either one as a subjob for war, or thf?


Of the many job combinations in XI, there are some jobs you just shouldn't be using as a sub at any point in time. Blue Mage is one of those jobs. Ranger can be used as a sub, but its applications are extremely niche and require an advanced understanding of the game as well as specific pieces of gear to even be worthwhile. //

subbing blue mage provides minimal benefit. As it stands, Blue Mage's greatest asset is its ability to set job traits. The problem with this, is that the better job traits don't come until after level 37 making that aspect of the job worthless as a sub. BLU's limited mp Pool also means you will get to cast maybe 3-5 spells at level 75 since both Warrior and Thf have 0 native mp. There are some arguments for subbing it to Paladin, but I personally haven't ever seen anything overly meaningful come out of that combination either.

If you want a good sub for Warrior THF or SAM is the way to go if you're 2 handing primarily. Ninja is the alternative for dual wielding. Monk is an alright sub if you have no other alternatives available to you.


Pre 30 you can sub Monk on Thief to great effect. Combo is a threefold attack making it just about the strongest early weaponskill, and when paired off with Sneak attack it has absurd damage output. Post 30, or arguably 24 if you have it sub Ninja is the best way to go for thief for arguably the rest of your career as a THF.

If you are trying to have a unique sub job just because, then don't. Save yourself the headache and just conform. People won't invite you unless they are desparate, and no shortage of people will harass you over your job selection. It's really not worth it. The game is over a decade old, people know what the best way to do things is for this especially dated content.
Author:  ipuntplatypi [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
I mean, I did get Drg to 75 with BLU being the closest thing to a melee sub I had at the time.
Author:  Rinenmui [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
BLU is a solid sub for some jobs. DRG, for instance, BLU is an amazing soloing sub. However, even in pties you're better off going /WAR or /SAM. I personally use BLU often for BST or DRG solo since BLU offers more combat stats and some really helpful spells. Still /WHM is arguably just as equal here. This is FFXI so there is a strong meta and in pties people will probably ask you to change to a stronger sub, but for soloing or even small groups you can just do what's fun.

Also, dont be afraid to try and innovate. Too many people get caught up in the meta here. It's possible with the right gear and level a job /BLU could put out some good dmg, its just riskier and if it doesnt work you could potentially make some people mad. I'd say try anything you want solo, and if you feel good try it in a pty, just dont get mad if they ask you to switch.
Author:  Julia [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
Rinenmui wrote:
Too many people get caught up in the meta here.
LOL
Author:  Ase [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
Do we just want to do this cause other people don't do it? Or is there a reason for you wanting this combination? BLU is an excellent sub for a couple jobs, I'm just not seeing it for ranger, and subbing ranger does nothing for blu with their no ranged skill outside of accuracy bonus at a nice low level. The main reason you /blu is for cocoon tanking something like Jailer of Prudence who just abuses ur shadows as /nin and cheap drg healing breath trigger, I've seen some rdm/blu for the cocoon also.
Author:  Wolffhardt [ Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blue Mage As a subjob
You can do whatever you want solo.

Suggesting that using a useless sub like /BLU in an xp party is a horrible idea is just "getting caught up in the meta" is ridiculous though. A party is 6 people that all have a role. Someone subbing /BLU isn't doing their role as well as they could, and for what purpose? Another 5 people aren't usually down for using their time suboptimally for you to get some weird sense of fun out of doing things poorly.
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