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The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM
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Author:  Wolffhardt [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

Hi - Your friendly troll here.

To the newer population that is leveling up WAR and SAM and you see someone spamming Penta Thrust and think that’s super cool? Please pay attention to what you’re actually fighting. If it’s not something that is actually weak to piercing, and thus polearm is excellent, you’re choosing to use a weapon you have a B- (WAR) instead of a weapon that you are A+ (GAXE) or A- (Axe), or B- (SAM) instead of an A+ (GKT) for no reason at all.

Stop it. You’re missing on purpose for no reason. The piercing damage isn’t helping you, and it annoys everyone. Use appropriate weapons.

I’ve seen WAR and SAM using polearm almost exclusively lately, and it’s lazy.

K thx

Author:  Aramiltaru [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

This is a bit more abrasive than I had in mind, but your voice really comes through. I give it a B-

Author:  Wolffhardt [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

Aramiltaru wrote:
This is a bit more abrasive than I had in mind, but your voice really comes through. I give it a B-


you mean you give it a "SAM using a polearm". Got it.

Author:  Wolffhardt [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

Aram gave me shit in WhatsApp, so.. To be useful.. An exhaustive list of mobs that are weak to piercing damage:

Ladybugs (lul?)
Bat Trios
Rocs
Flies
Birds
Colibri
Bees
Mandragoras
Giant Bats
Puks
Imps

If you're not fighting those, stahp.

Author:  Dodi [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

I’ve had people ask me why I’m not using polearm in camps where we aren’t fighting flying mobs or where we’re fighting a variety of mobs. I don’t think they realize how situational the use of polearm actually is. For example, even at darters I prefer to use GK to set up SC’s. I’d rather sacrifice a little top end damage to make Darkness and remove 65% of the mobs health with a single SC than cross my fingers for a 5/5 penta.

Author:  Wolffhardt [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

I'm just saying: I'm at least not gonna judge someone for using a polearm on the mobs where it's weak to them, but.... yeah, if you're fighting torama's with a polearm?

christ

Author:  Keys [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

Even on retail the only thing I used a polearm for was a colobri merit party, and even then only when the party had 2 bards so we could get madrigal. The skill difference between B- and A+ is night and day against tougher mobs. On easier mobs the piercing advantage is negligible. On tougher mobs you wont hit anything. Even with the best gear possible for a colibri merit party i meeded a bard to madrigal because of all the misses.

Author:  Ryamatsu [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

Maybe people are just skilling it up? Sometimes I'll whip out the polearm to keep it capped off, doesn't take long with pentra thrust spam as Samurai.

Author:  Wolffhardt [ Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

I guess that's fine, though if I had my pick you wouldn't do that anyways... but I was also referring to people clearly not just capping their polearm on a new level.

Author:  sukasaroth [ Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Epidemic of Polearm WAR and SAM

What's worse is SAMs thinking Nana is good seeing as the Zanshin only procs on misses and not zan/hasso procs.

Low base DMG and shit tier delay. Shinsoku is better than Nana lol

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