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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:23 am 
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CynicaGaming wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
Never said I agreed with that situation. Im almost 30m into my relic, and grinded for every byne bill. The concept of having easy relics on a server disgusts me, but Nas' hand was forced, its just a reality we have to deal with. Id rather not continue situations that we've already regretted, I think most people can agree with that.


So you would agree with Nas removing all the relics to fix this situation?

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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:05 am 
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Nabutso wrote:
CynicaGaming wrote:
lockecole777 wrote:
Never said I agreed with that situation. Im almost 30m into my relic, and grinded for every byne bill. The concept of having easy relics on a server disgusts me, but Nas' hand was forced, its just a reality we have to deal with. Id rather not continue situations that we've already regretted, I think most people can agree with that.


So you would agree with Nas removing all the relics to fix this situation?

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How about all the V belts from when drops were falling to the floor because several were dropping per day? We gonna take those away now? Or that KA spawns claimed some days now? That isn't how I expect KA to pop so should I just not go try to help people kill it for fear that Nas might not know how it's working now and if my friends were to get a drop that it might get taken away?

My point is that when there are so many things that don't work exactly as we would expect how are we supposed to know which ones are okay to kill and obtain drops from and which ones aren't?


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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:13 am 
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If you don't know why KA spawns claimed, you haven't been around long enough to form an opinion on this.

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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:15 am 
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Honestly I don't give a shit what people had before I just want precedent and something I can count on going forward.

Multiple pops of HNM's and the NQ/HQ being up at the same time? No problem keep your items.
8 V belts dropped today? No problem keep your items.
KA spawns claimed to someone? No problem keep your items.
DRK JA gives 20% haste to 1h weapon and lasts 3 minutes instead of 30? No problem keep your items.
Killing ZNM's for more than 3 months? No you can't keep your items why would you have ever thought that was okay?
Ebow NM spawning in the exact same place every however many hours from tod like clockwork? No problem keep your items.
Terrain glitching the Kclub OWNM? No problem keep your items.

Can you honestly look at any of these scenarios and say that you knew that one was okay and the other wasn't at the time aside from the terrain glitching anyway? Maybe we just need to come PM nas before we kill any NM that doesn't work exactly as you would expect it to in retail just to be sure the drops you get aren't going to get you banned or get taken away at a later date even if you obtained them without ever having an inkling that it's not working as nas would like it to.


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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:15 am 
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Because of character age playing a factor in claim speed correct?


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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:16 am 
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None of those things even hold a candle to free PW drops.

And no, character age doesn't play a factor. The hecks wrong with you?

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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:18 am 
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Juront wrote:
Just because some things that NEED to be taken away or changed are being taken away or changed, doesn't mean HE SHOULD TAKE AWAY EVERYTHING YOU FOOLS. Stop trying to ruin it for everyone because there is sand so far up your asscrack that you can't see reason. I'll gladly trade in my nana and hachi body that I shouldn't have for real ToAU content.

Bst is STILL overpowered. Don't believe me? Go charm a wyvern. Go charm a Marlboro. Fight with those instead of your lvl 85 jug.

And there is no way in hell you will convince me that you saved "for 2 years" to buy nana and hachi. That is the most ridiculous thing I think I have read in all of this.

My point is, don't ask for HNM mechanics to be fixed, relics to disappear, and gil to be taken away just because you have to buy a new GKT or level another job. What you're asking for is socialism at best, anarchy at worst.



bst is still OP just because it's not era accurate is a fan boy understanding of balance and lack of thinking. oh and don't worry there will be phase 2 removing a job from all things except form 1-74. every single job is op in it's context it's how something get a role.

however bst isn't one of them. because guess what charming something doesn't mean anything. in no single role bst is better than another job. even it's widescreen is gimped compared to rng :).

fanboy dude. square hecked up with this job. it is reduced to a farming job even that can be done with another job if you want to farm a specific enemy. versatility is the only bst saving point. but guess what in a game that work on specialization and reward being best in a specific task bst is just bst. just think for a second what role you give to bst to any given situation after 75 with best gears that another job just can't do it better.


and once again people claim that administrators wasn't aware of the situation. man it's not that hard and it's definitely already existing system that give you report and logs of a battle specially such a hard fight like AV. if you see high number of killing a hard boss that wipe alliances there is of course something wrong. do not insult players intelligence. developer chose to ignore this things. when he could easily prevent them. even by saying "don't do that"


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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:20 am 
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Nabutso wrote:
None of those things even hold a candle to free PW drops.

And no, character age doesn't play a factor. The hecks wrong with you?

Unless I've heard incorrectly from several people I was told that character age once played a role in who got the claim on mobs is that not correct? How are PW drops free? People didn't kill it without using 85 CC's or 99 charmed mobs? Cause I'm pretty sure plenty of people still killed it as a regular alliance fight. What makes those drops anymore free than any of the other NM's killed by alliances? Or Leaping Lizzie for that matter?


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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:25 am 
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Also I'm curious how all the pops dropping V belts isn't equal so getting "free" PW drops. The belt is the best item for any DD save MNK and RNG that can use it. Giving those away like candy is far more impactful than giving out a Katana and Body piece that are the best but at 75 no?


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 Post subject: Re: You fools!
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:29 am 
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That you don't understand the difference between a short term bug for minor pieces of gear vs hundreds of people abusing broken mechanics for years to get loot from super NMs in terms of impact and necessity to be rolled back, I don't know what to say.

At least history shows you weren't smug enough to have nas take your side on this one. Don't understand why you're still bothering to argue about it.

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