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| Author: | Rubicund [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
Hi, Is it better for us to keep gear at the same (or less) level at the Level sync in a XP party? For example, my Lv. 48 War/Nin has Life Belt and 2 x viking axes in a Level 46 Synced party. Would keeping the setup gimp me on Nasomi? I always carry Lower level gear, primarily weapons, just in case. Let's take the same example in a Level 41 party. +30 ACCR might seem like overkill for a Lv. 41 party so how is this calculated? Thoughts? I hear mixed things between LS mates and xp parties. Hoping to set the record straight. Cheers, ~Rubi |
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| Author: | Maseki [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
It's generally a good idea to keep gear lv 40 or close to it even if it's just for BCNM, OWNM, another job or even lv cap missions. Just keep them in a separate area of your MH. |
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| Author: | Rubicund [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
Maseki wrote: It's generally a good idea to keep gear lv 40 or close to it even if it's just for BCNM, OWNM, another job or even lv cap missions. Just keep them in a separate area of your MH. I agree and I do. I think I'll just carry gear just under the level sync and keep life simple  I don't feel like parsing data manually.
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| Author: | Concepcion [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
You can use /checkparam <me> to see how much of that ACC you retain under sync. |
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| Author: | Rubicund [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
Concepcion wrote: You can use /checkparam <me> to see how much of that ACC you retain under sync. Oh, thanks Concepcion - will do. BastokForever  {Take care} ^,^/ |
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| Author: | cthalupa [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
Concepcion wrote: You can use /checkparam <me> to see how much of that ACC you retain under sync. This is the correct answer. Not everything syncs down the same way, and some items are still the best choice even when you only get partial effects from them. Weapons will almost always be better to keep the level appropriate one available. The easier answer is keep cap gear around for whenever you're doing level capped content. |
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| Author: | mello [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
cthalupa wrote: Concepcion wrote: You can use /checkparam <me> to see how much of that ACC you retain under sync. This is the correct answer. Not everything syncs down the same way, and some items are still the best choice even when you only get partial effects from them. Weapons will almost always be better to keep the level appropriate one available. The easier answer is keep cap gear around for whenever you're doing level capped content. A few examples that might help: Life belt at lvl48 may be better than other options as even when you're as low as 44 or 45.. would have to /checkparam Same with Scorpion Harness, Haubergeon, Peacock charm, Amemet mantle, sniper rings, optical hat, etc.. Usually items with high state numbers in the 10s where you can still get 5-7 stat points when synced making it better than other options. Items in 40s-60s that you're still using at lvl75 are usually good candidates for a couple levels of sync^^ |
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| Author: | bengeeman [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
mello wrote: cthalupa wrote: Concepcion wrote: You can use /checkparam <me> to see how much of that ACC you retain under sync. This is the correct answer. Not everything syncs down the same way, and some items are still the best choice even when you only get partial effects from them. Weapons will almost always be better to keep the level appropriate one available. The easier answer is keep cap gear around for whenever you're doing level capped content. A few examples that might help: Life belt at lvl48 may be better than other options as even when you're as low as 44 or 45.. would have to /checkparam Same with Scorpion Harness, Haubergeon, Peacock charm, Amemet mantle, sniper rings, optical hat, etc.. Usually items with high state numbers in the 10s where you can still get 5-7 stat points when synced making it better than other options. Items in 40s-60s that you're still using at lvl75 are usually good candidates for a couple levels of sync^^ Weird but possible solution to this problem would be to set up a standard curve and create a calculator out of it. Need a Level 75 buddy with a lot of gear options, and a Level 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 player (or someone with all of those jobs). Do /checkparam <me> before at all points, using the same gear. Have the 75 buddy with lots of gear sync to Level 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, and do /checkparam each time you sync. Plot the ACC values in excel for each. Try on different pieces of gear to get a few different curves. Or create a curve for each piece of gear. I of course don't have the time or resources to do this, but it would go a long way in uncovering exactly how sync works and how you could min max for BCNMs or whatever. Sure, it's easy enough to have a full set for your RDM doing UO. But when you want to have multiple jobs ready for multiple different purposes, it would help to know how sync works to avoid all the wasted storage space. IE: If I can just bring my Life belt to all of my BCNMs (20, 30, 40, 50, 60, w/e), then I definitely want to get rid of my barbarian's belt, etc. |
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| Author: | mello [ Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
bengeeman wrote: mello wrote: cthalupa wrote: This is the correct answer. Not everything syncs down the same way, and some items are still the best choice even when you only get partial effects from them. Weapons will almost always be better to keep the level appropriate one available. The easier answer is keep cap gear around for whenever you're doing level capped content. A few examples that might help: Life belt at lvl48 may be better than other options as even when you're as low as 44 or 45.. would have to /checkparam Same with Scorpion Harness, Haubergeon, Peacock charm, Amemet mantle, sniper rings, optical hat, etc.. Usually items with high state numbers in the 10s where you can still get 5-7 stat points when synced making it better than other options. Items in 40s-60s that you're still using at lvl75 are usually good candidates for a couple levels of sync^^ Weird but possible solution to this problem would be to set up a standard curve and create a calculator out of it. Need a Level 75 buddy with a lot of gear options, and a Level 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 player (or someone with all of those jobs). Do /checkparam <me> before at all points, using the same gear. Have the 75 buddy with lots of gear sync to Level 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, and do /checkparam each time you sync. Plot the ACC values in excel for each. Try on different pieces of gear to get a few different curves. Or create a curve for each piece of gear. I of course don't have the time or resources to do this, but it would go a long way in uncovering exactly how sync works and how you could min max for BCNMs or whatever. Sure, it's easy enough to have a full set for your RDM doing UO. But when you want to have multiple jobs ready for multiple different purposes, it would help to know how sync works to avoid all the wasted storage space. IE: If I can just bring my Life belt to all of my BCNMs (20, 30, 40, 50, 60, w/e), then I definitely want to get rid of my barbarian's belt, etc. No need to sync down so low. Usually after a dozen or so levels, the gear is completely useless. You can probably do this test within a 10 or maybe 20 sync. Best would be to level sync someone at lvl75 with all different types of stats on, and record the values syncing down 1 lvl each time, 74, 73, 72, 71, 70, until you either get a pattern, or until the peices are giving 0 stats. Obviously, gear will only be effected once you start going down each individual piece's level requirement, so maybe do something like 70, 69, 68, 67 or whatever. And for lower syncs, you can go aggro OWNMs for 60, 50, etc.. The stats that survive the largest syncs are defense, HP, and MP since those are the largest values you encounter on gear. It's probably a mixture of flat and percentage reductions. |
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| Author: | kurozuka [ Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's talk Level Sync and Higher Level Gear |
At work so can't check , but for instance wearing mahatma body for 40 syncs (body/legs) is better then whatever else you can get in that slot for that lvl. For body I believe the best at 40 is mages robe+1 , gives 1 int . but iirc u get 2 from mahatma( prolly errant as well). Edit: I believe syncd weapons is always a bad idea like 90% of the time if not more. Try to have a lvl appropriate weapon |
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