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Author:  Hamster [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 6:47 am ]
Post subject:  Nas vs SE
Every popular vs unpopular maint or adjustment, it seems funny to me. When Se made an unpopular change to how things work it was "blame SE". But when it's a nasomi thing, it targets the person who made the decision directly. It seems that SE was shielded with anonymity, where as nas is the guy that does the things and he's the only one, so you can direct your hate/anger/frustration in a very narrow point.
Author:  Julia [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
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Author:  pfd1987 [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
Hamster wrote:
Every popular vs unpopular maint or adjustment, it seems funny to me. When Se made an unpopular change to how things work it was "blame SE". But when it's a nasomi thing, it targets the person who made the decision directly. It seems that SE was shielded with anonymity, where as nas is the guy that does the things and he's the only one, so you can direct your hate/anger/frustration in a very narrow point.



most everyone that plays this game just wants it to be like retail before it got to easy. he doesnt need to correct things that dont need correcting. focus on making the over all server better as far as bugs and all that go instead of trying to make the game how HE thinks it should be. this is clearly a very unpopular move. not to mention he also said he would never nerf rng like he has. its not just about this nerf, but what he may nerf next. if people figure out how to make money farming something and it works for them, will he then play god again and nerf that because he thinks it should be different? SAM now does the most damage, is he gonna nerf that? my point is there is no reason to fix something that isnt broken. fix the bugs bcnms and all the other stuff you promised instead of trying to create the game as you see fit.
Author:  Tex [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
Let's be honest, even before this patch Samurai was already shitting on basically every other DD.


Also, IS THAT MY BOY SAGE SUNDI!?

That guy had quite a few memes about him back in the day. I had to dig through my 15 year old photobucket account to find some of these.

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See, even back on retail people joked about SE overly buffing Sam.

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Author:  pfd1987 [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
Kubisnaxx wrote:
pfd1987 wrote:


most everyone that plays this game just wants it to be like retail before it got to easy. he doesnt need to correct things that dont need correcting. focus on making the over all server better as far as bugs and all that go instead of trying to make the game how HE thinks it should be. this is clearly a very unpopular move. not to mention he also said he would never nerf rng like he has. its not just about this nerf, but what he may nerf next. if people figure out how to make money farming something and it works for them, will he then play god again and nerf that because he thinks it should be different? SAM now does the most damage, is he gonna nerf that? my point is there is no reason to fix something that isnt broken. fix the bugs bcnms and all the other stuff you promised instead of trying to create the game as you see fit.


SAM's aren't going to be doing the most damage with this new tp gain they're getting from the -30 delay lmao


wanna bet? its not much of a difference friend. were talking milliseconds
Author:  Julia [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
Tex wrote:
IS THAT MY BOY SAGE SUNDI!?
People forgot. Sage rubbed off on 'em. :D
Author:  Aewyn [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
pfd1987 wrote:
Kubisnaxx wrote:
pfd1987 wrote:


most everyone that plays this game just wants it to be like retail before it got to easy. he doesnt need to correct things that dont need correcting. focus on making the over all server better as far as bugs and all that go instead of trying to make the game how HE thinks it should be. this is clearly a very unpopular move. not to mention he also said he would never nerf rng like he has. its not just about this nerf, but what he may nerf next. if people figure out how to make money farming something and it works for them, will he then play god again and nerf that because he thinks it should be different? SAM now does the most damage, is he gonna nerf that? my point is there is no reason to fix something that isnt broken. fix the bugs bcnms and all the other stuff you promised instead of trying to create the game as you see fit.


SAM's aren't going to be doing the most damage with this new tp gain they're getting from the -30 delay lmao


wanna bet? its not much of a difference friend. were talking milliseconds


Underlined the part of what Kubi said that you must have missed. A lot of people lost their 6-hit builds (until the bug is fixed) because the TP calculations are screwy. Also we're talking about a 500 ms delay, half a second. If that's calculated per weapon, dual wield attack rounds just got a whole second faster as compared to 2 handed weapons gaining a half second.
Author:  Wolffhardt [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
pfd1987 wrote:
Kubisnaxx wrote:
pfd1987 wrote:


most everyone that plays this game just wants it to be like retail before it got to easy. he doesnt need to correct things that dont need correcting. focus on making the over all server better as far as bugs and all that go instead of trying to make the game how HE thinks it should be. this is clearly a very unpopular move. not to mention he also said he would never nerf rng like he has. its not just about this nerf, but what he may nerf next. if people figure out how to make money farming something and it works for them, will he then play god again and nerf that because he thinks it should be different? SAM now does the most damage, is he gonna nerf that? my point is there is no reason to fix something that isnt broken. fix the bugs bcnms and all the other stuff you promised instead of trying to create the game as you see fit.


SAM's aren't going to be doing the most damage with this new tp gain they're getting from the -30 delay lmao


wanna bet? its not much of a difference friend. were talking milliseconds



No... we're talking an entire extra attack around for every WS. I can think of a number of jobs that, as it stands right now, would probably do favorably with SAM in meripos.
Author:  Dodi [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
pfd1987 wrote:
Kubisnaxx wrote:
pfd1987 wrote:


most everyone that plays this game just wants it to be like retail before it got to easy. he doesnt need to correct things that dont need correcting. focus on making the over all server better as far as bugs and all that go instead of trying to make the game how HE thinks it should be. this is clearly a very unpopular move. not to mention he also said he would never nerf rng like he has. its not just about this nerf, but what he may nerf next. if people figure out how to make money farming something and it works for them, will he then play god again and nerf that because he thinks it should be different? SAM now does the most damage, is he gonna nerf that? my point is there is no reason to fix something that isnt broken. fix the bugs bcnms and all the other stuff you promised instead of trying to create the game as you see fit.


SAM's aren't going to be doing the most damage with this new tp gain they're getting from the -30 delay lmao


wanna bet? its not much of a difference friend. were talking milliseconds


Derpity derp derp derp
Author:  lockecole777 [ Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Nas vs SE
pfd1987 wrote:
Kubisnaxx wrote:
pfd1987 wrote:


most everyone that plays this game just wants it to be like retail before it got to easy. he doesnt need to correct things that dont need correcting. focus on making the over all server better as far as bugs and all that go instead of trying to make the game how HE thinks it should be. this is clearly a very unpopular move. not to mention he also said he would never nerf rng like he has. its not just about this nerf, but what he may nerf next. if people figure out how to make money farming something and it works for them, will he then play god again and nerf that because he thinks it should be different? SAM now does the most damage, is he gonna nerf that? my point is there is no reason to fix something that isnt broken. fix the bugs bcnms and all the other stuff you promised instead of trying to create the game as you see fit.


SAM's aren't going to be doing the most damage with this new tp gain they're getting from the -30 delay lmao


wanna bet? its not much of a difference friend. were talking milliseconds


Not milliseconds, half a second, which is a pretty substantial number the lower the delay you get. You're looking at NINs, MNKs and THFs getting a substantial increase in white damage, which honestly I feel like puts numbers closer to where they should be on the spectrum of melee DPS.
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