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| Author: | dizzimagic [ Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
Hiyaaa! I'm new to nasomi, old to the game and had a question. I'm playing red mage and wanted to ask is it better to sub whm or blm (or another job I'm not mentioning) on nasomi? I like to bring as much utility as I can to the party so that's the current goal. Thanks for the help ^^! |
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| Author: | cthalupa [ Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
Depends on what you're doing. You'll need both leveled. Lower levels you're less likely to be main healing, so you're probably giving more to your party as /blm Higher levels you are frequently the only healer, so /whm is necessary if there are status effects that need to be removed, etc. Lots of content where /blm will be what you want, though. You'll also want /drk (chainspell + stun) and /nin (solo stuff, tanking if you want to do that) |
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| Author: | OperationFail [ Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
I have only been denied parties when I didn't have WHM sub, so I'd call it the most important for XPing. Some camps, it is just mandatory for the status effect removal. Personally, I prefer BLM because Conserve MP is better than /WHM if all you are doing is healing. Also, Elemental Seal is absolutely amazing to get that party saving Sleep/Sleepga/Silence off. |
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| Author: | HarleyM [ Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
/SMN is great 50+ if you don't need status cures (auto-refresh is significantly better than conserve mp) but I agree that /WHM is by far the most important sub for exp and the only one you are likely to be disinvited for missing. |
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| Author: | Bodey [ Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
leveling you can safely /whm and that's all you really need /blm for the reasons stated in above posts, eseal + something mostly. you also get sleepga which isn't sleepga 2 but it is still sleepga. having warp as a spell is a really good utility thing that saves lots of time in the long run when you're running around town/buying mats and shit for crafting. /nin isn't as cool as everyone says in my opinion because you have E for evasion so you're constantly recasting shadows on yourself. you do have fast cast and haste to make this insanely viable but i always found it annoying for soloing because casting is time you're not hitting shit anyways so what's the point. plus whenever i'm soloing on RDM i'm usually farming for something so what gives, i need TH. /smn is funny if you don't need -na spells because you could potentially have 6mp/tick and rolling thunder depending on where you are at /thf is viable for solo farming since it gives you TH1 and you have shit like phalanx + stoneskin + protect self-casts so you can take very little damage. |
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| Author: | Knarlfist [ Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
As an RDM main from retail, I lvl'd to 75 exclusively as /whm, but went on to level tons of jobs to use as situational subs... the main ones of course being /blm /nin /war /drk (for 2hr+Stun duty in Sky). I even did some weird ones like /blu /pld /brd /smn etc. The sky's the limit with RDM, and we run the gambit with subs from super useful to situationally fun to experiment with. If you don't care about ultimate utility, I don't think most players will care if you just choose one of the main subs, either blm or whm, and don't bother with others. |
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| Author: | dizzimagic [ Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
Awesome! Thank you all for the awesome suggestions. I'm glad rdm has so many utility options when It comes to subs, will give me something to do for a long time ^^. |
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| Author: | Julia [ Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
HarleyM wrote: /SMN is great 50+ if you don't need status cures (auto-refresh is significantly better than conserve mp) but I agree that /WHM is by far the most important sub for exp and the only one you are likely to be disinvited for missing. For the sake of completeness, the bolded statement is true if the /blm is spending less than the opportunity cost threshold. If the wiki is accurate, this threshold is about 285 mp/minute at level 75! That's difficult if not impossible to reach in normal circumstances. If aspir is being used by the /blm to effect mp recovery, however, then that recovery needs to be factored against Auto Refresh's net of 20 mp/min--200 mp per convert. For example, /blm is the smart choice for me when I'm farming light in sky and get 50-100 mp per aspir. It would take me considerably longer to do an elemental otherwise because I'd have to schedule 80-second-sleep2-rests during each fight, which I pretty much have to do when I'm going /thf and trying to nuke-farm flowers in sea. (/cuts_self)
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| Author: | Cherripepsi [ Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
I've watched a few Rdm/Pld setups at 75 for weird kiting/tanking situations...That is very much once in a blue moon type need |
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| Author: | Nekozuko [ Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Red Mage Subjobs on Nasomi |
Rdm/nin is also used for tanking thanks so all the hate generating spells and fast casts and gear to quickly put up Utsu. |
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