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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:10 am 
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Aeroo's issue was regarding cure enmity, and only cure enmity; that cure5 generated 0 enmity, and the people who chimed in agreed that should be fixed. Nothing to do with cure HP restore amounts.

Why did these values remain out-of-era for so many years? And how does one or two threads defy the claim that more than 1% of people even gave a shit? Even compared to player activity, it's only like 20% of people who play on nasomi even use the forums, so fucking 1% of the people who use the forums complaining about out-of-era values seems like these kind of complaints shouldn't even be heard. If you do a search for "cure" search-term in the forums by thread-title, there are only 9 results, one of them is aero's complaining about cure5 enmity, and the others are about cure enmity as well. not a single goddamned one announcing any noticed out-of-era issue with cure HP restore amounts.

Quit your gaslighting and pretending more people support these dumbshit nerfs than actually do.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:14 am 
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Kazen wrote:
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These nerfs against player efficacy are fucking stupid, and seem wholly mindlessly implemented sorely for the sake of trying to copy-paste the values of buffs from an era in time before most of the decent balance adjustments were implemented.
It's just plain retrograding.


Game was super hard and punishing then, that's what Nasomi and a very large number of players want.


If you want a challenge, challenge yourself. If you're too dumb to challenge yourself, then fuck off with your attempts to ruin the experience for other people who don't give a shit.

Want a challenge? Play fucking quirky jobs in ways they weren't meant to. Play less efficient jobs. Deliberately use low level shitty gear. Challenge yourself, basically.

It would seem the kind of mindset requesting more challenge is unfortunately already too challenged as-is, if this simple facet well within your own control as a player and the way you play your character has eluded you.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:20 am 
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Lol nerdrage? You do seem to be a pro at challenging yourself, you're playing pld like it's a great job to farm coffer keys solo, and doin it in shitty gear, so... Maybe you can tell us how you do it?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:24 am 
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Lol nerdrage? You do seem to be a pro at challenging yourself, you're playing pld like it's a great job to farm coffer keys solo, and doin it in shitty gear, so... Maybe you can tell us how you do it?

I'm playing PLD to farm coffers cause there were no high level thf's available, PLD is my only 75 job, and I wanted to help a friend get his AF gear.

You're a goddamn retard carrot. I mean this sincerely. Please stop responding to me or anyone with your fucking idiotic ad hominem strawman fallacy misdirection garbage.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:28 am 
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ZweiHerzen wrote:
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Lol nerdrage? You do seem to be a pro at challenging yourself, you're playing pld like it's a great job to farm coffer keys solo, and doin it in shitty gear, so... Maybe you can tell us how you do it?

I'm playing PLD to farm coffers cause there were no high level thf's available, PLD is my only 75 job, and I wanted to help a friend get his AF gear.

You're a goddamn retard carrot. I mean this sincerely. Please stop responding to me or anyone with your fucking idiotic ad hominem strawman fallacy misdirection garbage.

I don't think you know how forums work
I'm positive you don't know how pld works, and not sure if you know how coffer orcs work or not, I'm pretty sure you never just marched in on your pld solo and big boi'd em though.

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That'a'boi ^^

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:57 am 
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ZweiHerzen wrote:
Kazen wrote:
ZweiHerzen wrote:
These nerfs against player efficacy are fucking stupid, and seem wholly mindlessly implemented sorely for the sake of trying to copy-paste the values of buffs from an era in time before most of the decent balance adjustments were implemented.
It's just plain retrograding.


Game was super hard and punishing then, that's what Nasomi and a very large number of players want.


If you want a challenge, challenge yourself. If you're too dumb to challenge yourself, then fuck off with your attempts to ruin the experience for other people who don't give a shit.

Want a challenge? Play fucking quirky jobs in ways they weren't meant to. Play less efficient jobs. Deliberately use low level shitty gear. Challenge yourself, basically.

It would seem the kind of mindset requesting more challenge is unfortunately already too challenged as-is, if this simple facet well within your own control as a player and the way you play your character has eluded you.


Sorry, I want a sense of accomplishment when I defeat something in FFXI. I don't want everything to be so dumb downed that I must gimp myself(whether that be gear or jobs used) to feel that. I and many others also believe everyone shouldn't be allowed to do all the content, the skill floor has always been low in 75-cap FFXI, it was just significantly lower in RotZ/CoP than ToAU and WoTG raised it even more.

You realize there used to be a Cross-Server HNM "Prestige" meter on BlueGartr? A lot of shells were missing things like Wyrms, Baha v2, Jailers, Cerb, Khim. Not because they didn't want to kill, because they literally couldn't.

People like challenging video games, even when played at the highest level of skill. Look at the Dark Souls franchise and all the other titles that followed their lead.

Edit: Mentioning to my LS/friends/IRC and hearing confirmation that Cure values seemed OP, instead of posting on the forums doesn't mean that I'm gaslighting. Try harder.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:14 am 
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Kazen wrote:
I'm mentally challenged. Please cater to me and make the game harder for everyone because I don't understand how to play the game to make it harder for myself and give me the sense of achievement I crave, but again am too stupid to deliberately establish upon my own self.

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Cure nerf and Protect nerf bear no goddamn challenges on blm burn parties, kazen. You're still gonna nuke dynamis all the same.
Please consider pulling the cocks out of your mouth before attempting to talk in public, you couldn't be playing the game on any easier cheese strategies if you tried. The problem of you feeling unchallenged is literally a you problem.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:17 am 
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ZweiHerzen wrote:
Kazen wrote:
I'm mentally challenged. Please cater to me and make the game harder for everyone because I don't understand how to play the game to make it harder for myself and give me the sense of achievement I crave, but again am too stupid to deliberately establish upon my own self.

no.


So you don't want to actually debate about this, you just want the game to be super easy PLD big damage mode. We'll see who's idea wins out in the end. I got a feeling we both know the answer though.

The "Spirit of Era", aka super hard and punishing.

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