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| Author: | StickyWicket [ Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | CoP 3-5 - Diablos Fight Is OP |
We tried to do 3-5 with 12 people last night, in a variety of party combos, and only found 1 that worked once. To beat diablos we used 2 nin tanks, brd, whm, blu, blm and full 40 gear. PLD is useless. Diablos was hitting for 100-200 with auto attacks. Healers with ballad couldn't keep mp with a PLD tank. BLM is pretty useless. 99% of spells were being resisted. Our BLMs end up using DoT, and backup healing mainly. We used poison pots to avoid sleep, food, and made sure people had level cap gear. We need to get some PLD through, and a lot of other LS members, and many people don't fit the now required roles to beat Diablos. There is no room for a useless role to get a free ride through the fight. Diablos' magic resist, evasion, and base attack should be looked at. |
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| Author: | Malidar [ Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoP 3-5 - Diablos Fight Is OP |
It surely is OP now. But my group of 6 (1 of which was dual box), took him down on our 3rd try. St up: PLD/NIN, SAM/NIN, DRK/NIN, BLM, WHM & RDM **DRK & SAM are merited 1st attempt we tried carby pull to the top which didnt work. Tiles fall now, so we ended up all bunching up right near diablos, his only AOE spam was sleepga. SAM/NIN & PLD/NIN tanked, PLD opened with sentinel + flash. SAM/NIN took hate often while Tank was asleep, he used poison pots. He hits very very hard, and can aspir a PLDs entire MP pool. Which he did back to back to me as PLD. It was a long fight, but kept things stable and finished it with only 1 death on 3rd attempt. Sharing hate and all melee having /nin, and staying together on the same tile as diablos is what ended up helping us win. |
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| Author: | StickyWicket [ Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoP 3-5 - Diablos Fight Is OP |
This fight is so much easier with a SMN. Once we swapped one in with melee DD the fights not so bad. |
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| Author: | xandman [ Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoP 3-5 - Diablos Fight Is OP |
sounds like hes hitting harder than retail, should be about 50-100 damage i think looking at old videos, but since i doubt he does any of his special attacks yet?...this is probably a decent compromise, these fights should be hard! |
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| Author: | Grahf [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoP 3-5 - Diablos Fight Is OP |
From 2007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlItk_sNOS0 The tank gets hits for ~130 hp each time 2006: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz3Jev_FOvE Nin hits for ~3 HP each attack |
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| Author: | xandman [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoP 3-5 - Diablos Fight Is OP |
Grahf wrote: From 2007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlItk_sNOS0 The tank gets hits for ~130 hp each time 2006: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz3Jev_FOvE Nin hits for ~3 HP each attack heh yeah those nins are getting wrecked! the pld in this video seems to fare much better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG0SlmRRl7g though its quite hard to make out due to the horrible video quality! |
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| Author: | Aramiltaru [ Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CoP 3-5 - Diablos Fight Is OP |
Sticky, you forgot to mention he's silenceable here which makes him do nothing but auto attack. As a whm with capped enfeebling I was able to land it without Elemental Seal, but it took more than one try sometimes. With elemental seal it lasted about 3 minutes or so. |
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