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 Post subject: ZNM rant
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:44 pm 
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I'm going to rant about the piss poor drop rate with ZNM pop items.

On retail, if you kill the znm, then the pop item for the next stage is supposed to be 100%. It's not 100% here. It's far, far from that.
We have to spend 100k just to pop one Tier one, and hope that it drops the pop item. Then, after you've done all Tier 1 ZNM for that branch and if you're lucky to get all the drops, you can pop one Tier 2. So, if everything goes well, you have to spend 900k in total by doing Tier 1 nine times and Tier 2 three times, just to be able to pop one Tier 3 ZNM. If the pop item doesn't drop, then all the effort you did before goes right into the trash, and you have to start all over from the very beginning. Now multiply this by 18 since it's a LS effort/marathon.

You have to do this 3 times to be able to pop one Tier 4. And trust me, it's VERY common to get no pop items to drop, even at Tier 3. I've gotten countless no drops at Tier 1 and 2, and even twice during Tier 3 :evil: . It costs millions of gil and many hours/days/weeks to do this and it's very demoralizing and frustrating when it doesn't drop. This is the kind of stuff that makes people want to quit the game for good. Yeah, I get that a HQ (also called +1) sometimes drops, letting you skip ahead to the next tier, but I would much rather have a regular 100% drop, with no HQ drops, than gamble with this absurd drop chance.

/rant finish for now


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 Post subject: Re: ZNM rant
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:51 pm 
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It's almost as if Nasomi realized there was.. exponentially too much gil in the economy, and created a drop rate that would maybe help that.


or he just messed up coding it.

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 Post subject: Re: ZNM rant
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:41 am 
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Tensho wrote:

This is the kind of stuff that makes people want to quit the game for good.


In all fairness, that's pretty far down the list.

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 Post subject: Re: ZNM rant
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:50 am 
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If the pop item doesn't drop, then all the effort you did before goes right into the trash, and you have to start all over from the very beginning. Now multiply this by 18 since it's a LS effort/marathon.


I would never run t1 or t2 with more than 6 people. The 15 minute repop for t1 is an absolute nightmare. The runs to get out to the the t2 pop locations are long and arduous for shit drop rates.

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It costs millions of gil and many hours/days/weeks to do this and it's very demoralizing and frustrating when it doesn't drop.


Agreed - system is awful in its current state.

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I would much rather have a regular 100% drop, with no HQ drops, than gamble with this absurd drop chance.


As would I. I don't even care about 100k pop items. I care more about my sanity and time.

On a side note; has anyone tried farming for a bracelet of verve and gotten it to drop? I tried for a few hours a while back, but never saw it.


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 Post subject: Re: ZNM rant
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:29 am 
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Gotta agree with you

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 Post subject: Re: ZNM rant
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