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mello
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:20 pm 
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Mordikaiser wrote:
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Just doing a cost breakdown, I'd probably pay in the 300k-500k ballpark.

My rationale is that tools are 8g a minute for sneak vs 450~600g (less for me if I want to synth them but I don't) a minute for silent oil. However, there is an upper limit to what is reasonable in terms of recouping that time. If I offered 5mil for it, I'd have to cast it literally 8300 times to break even vs silent oils. The issue with that, is that it would take years for me to see the benefit of the investment. On the other hand at a 300k price point, itd take closer to 500 casts, and that could be recouped within a year. This also ignores the fact of any time I'm not using NIN in any capacity, as well as any pertinent downtime where there is no need for sneak to begin with. This further diminishes the value of the scroll. Thankfully, unlike with mana based casting its very easy to cost out sneak vs silent oil in this case.


@wolfhardt The monomi tools.


I think you fail to see the value in something that most others dont have.



There is no value. Its sneak. Everyone has sneak. If other people are willing to pay more, more power to them. I want it because its a tiny bit more convenient and less costly over a great length of time. For those reasons I don't feel compelled to spend 3m-5m on it. Its fine, there will always bee more silent oils. Something being rare doesn't inherently add value to it.


Agreed. Also, it's only sneak with nin main or sub on. God forbid you need to run a different subjob, now you need to go buy oil anyway.

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disposablehero
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:24 am 
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if someone did 6-10 more worms turns runs we could probably rule that one out.

Ruled out things like uo pp rj tails and most of the 30 and 40 bcnms work. Go look :P
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Mordikaiser
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:51 am 
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Bump.
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chrissm2006
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:15 am 
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Monomi drops from Qu'bia arena from Undying Promise BCNM. Good luck getting drop and merry christmas! 8-) ;)

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 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:38 pm 
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the people trying to sell it for mil+ now look like A holes. over priced. thread starter had a point. not worth mil+ least now price will go down like it should. Glad these scammers wont have a monopoly on this anymore. Power to the people!
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Kazen
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:12 pm 
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VenomDank wrote:
the people trying to sell it for mil+ now look like A holes. over priced. thread starter had a point. not worth mil+ least now price will go down like it should. Glad these scammers wont have a monopoly on this anymore. Power to the people!


Scammers? Are you serious? I'm 99% sure at max 3 sold since they were "reintroduced" and I'm willing to bet a sizable fortune that those were scrolls people had before they were removed from the NPC.

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Wolffhardt
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:24 pm 
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Fun fact: Gold would also be incredibly cheap in real life if it was very easy to get.

The early prices were appropriate, just like its now not worth very much at all. That’s the point of the economy.

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warlyx
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:20 pm 
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7 on stock , probably priced at 10M , 1 sold at 700k, in 2 weeks price will be like every other bcnm spell around 100k-200k

the spell didnt existed until Nas announce the bcnms that dropped it (bugged) ,prices will drop , is just matter of time , after all the spell is cool but with 10M u can level alchemy to 100 and create tons of oils :lol: , isnt a "must" have , like utsusemi : NI , erase , phalanx , refresh or dispel. And those are affordable even for leveling players (thanks Altana )
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Miku
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:09 pm 
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I dont think the spell will drop to 100k, I mean who actually runs this bcnm regularly? It's not like theres a peacock charm or empress hairpin to go for.

Supplies of this scroll will dwindle once the hype dies and the price will creep up.

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lockecole777
 Post subject: Re: WTB Monomi: Ichi
PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:46 am 
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Miku wrote:
I dont think the spell will drop to 100k, I mean who actually runs this bcnm regularly? It's not like theres a peacock charm or empress hairpin to go for.

Supplies of this scroll will dwindle once the hype dies and the price will creep up.


Its like a 50-75% drop rate, and can drop ONTOP of every other item in the BC. (Ive seen both utsusemi Ni and that drop) It's gonna drop really low. Ontop of that the BC is braindead easy.
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