While hanging out in Bhaflau Thickets, I found myself with some time to kill and remembered I still had my Monster Signa on me from a Wings of Fury run. The consensus around here seems to be that Monster Signa is the superior piece, but I haven't seen it tested against Apollo's Staff. The tests I've seen involve the Chat. Staff, which indicate that it does not have the hidden +15% charm acc.

I wonder though... according to ffxiclopedia, Chat. Staff gives charm accuracy, while Iridal Staff is shown to give charm +5. What if the Chat. Staff is coded to give charm + instead of acc.? What about Apollo's Staff?

Anyway, still a work in progress with a small sample size, but here are my results so far:

Hume 75BST/37THF
Target - Wivre, LV.99

Monster Signa:
CHR - 69+45=114
Success: 8
Fail: 45
8/53 = 15.09%

Apollo's Staff:
CHR - 69+39=108
Success: 16
Fail: 38
16/54 = 29.62%

So the sample size is still pretty small, but these results are starting to look fishy if 6 CHR is indeed the only variable changed.

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As discussed before, it seems like it's adding a flat % chance to succeed in charming. 15% to be exact (in reality it is less than this as it won't roll the 15% chance if you succeed already).

This means that when your chance to charm is very low, the 15% is more than additional CHR. When your chance to charm is very high, CHR is better.

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Think nabutso missed the point of your post

This is a great find really smart of you for thinking to test this thanks

Id like to see numbers with a chat staff cause chat and grip give 6 chr

The previous consensus was that monster signs was better than all other options in all situations

Should I look for apollo's at lvl 60 or just stick with Monster Signa?

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Appreciate the testing, Seij. Looking forward to more numbers.

Looks like Light/Apollo's did, in fact, have the hidden charm accuracy while Iridal/Chat. did not. After this update, I'm guessing Chat. Staff will now be the superior option for charm accuracy.

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At what point should I switch over from Monster Signa to Light/Apollo? I am now leveling my alt with bst but is only 21 right now. Luckily my main is Rdm/bst and can use both Monster and Light/Apollo as well. Should I be looking into investing into 2 staffs when I get to the point?

Also, looks like Apollo is slight better than Monster when charming harder mobs...however, is Light still better with it only being 10% flat rate?

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Use Apollos or Chat staff as soon as it becomes available, at 51. If you can use it, use Chat over anything else for charming. If you can't afford Apollo or Chat, use Light staff over Signa.