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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:09 pm 
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Piellar wrote:
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RDM cannot chug yag drinks and use refresh spell. It is one or the other.


I didn't know about that. Sounds good if you want to put that much effort into your WHM. I mean we're really lacking in actual WHM mains on Nasomi, so I'm sure you'll develop a good rep that way.

I play a Galka and just making it to level 25 WHM was a royal pain in the butt. >_< Terrible MP, no soloability and people don't invite WHMs for Dunes and Qufim unless you make your own party.

To answer OPs post I haven't played everything on Nasomi, far from it, but the three base mages in low-levels are the worst. Non-THF physical DPS get easy invites, as do all tanks. You can't fish on BRD or COR without /anon, even then some people will find you. :shock:


So i just did the calculations on melon juice cost.

thundermelon is 292g, watermelon is 180g from scramplix in Rabao (easy to get to with tele-altep as WHM) plus one water crystal @ 30g. total is 502g for one melon juice which is 2.25 minutes long. (60/2.25)x502g = 13.4k gil per hour and that is only if you religiously spam; that will not even be required most of the time. Supplementing your whm with occasional juices is affordable imo.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:12 pm 
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So i just did the calculations on melon juice cost.

thundermelon is 292g, watermelon is 180g from scramplix in Rabao (easy to get to with tele-altep as WHM) plus one water crystal @ 30g. total is 502g for one melon juice which is 2.25 minutes long. (60/2.25)x502g = 13.4k gil per hour and that is only if you religiously spam; that will not even be required most of the time. Supplementing your whm with occasional juices is affordable imo.


That does sound much better. Thanks for the tip!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:49 pm 
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Piellar wrote:
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So i just did the calculations on melon juice cost.

thundermelon is 292g, watermelon is 180g from scramplix in Rabao (easy to get to with tele-altep as WHM) plus one water crystal @ 30g. total is 502g for one melon juice which is 2.25 minutes long. (60/2.25)x502g = 13.4k gil per hour and that is only if you religiously spam; that will not even be required most of the time. Supplementing your whm with occasional juices is affordable imo.


That does sound much better. Thanks for the tip!


I realised if you only use melon juice occasionally it will be very cheap to instead use pineapple juice full time. It restores only 10 mp less than melon juice but the duration is almost double. Pineapple juice is only 138g per synth, kazham pineapple sold in kazham (can buy without purchasing entrance to airship area on deck below) and lasts 4 minutes so cost per hour is only 2.1k gil. Cooking skill requirement also lower so cheaper in time and gil that way too. At the very least that is something most WHM should aim for right?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:54 pm 
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Pineapple is 20 MP/min
Melon is 40 MP/min

Incomparable, really.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:01 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Pineapple is 20 MP/min
Melon is 40 MP/min

Incomparable, really.


If melon is being spammed yes they are not comparable, but I said if melon is only being used occasionally then using pineapple full time achieves the same result in terms of total mp restored. The duration is close to double on pineapple and the cost is cheaper. As I said it's only 10mp less restored per juice. You could mix the two and use melon in intense times to save gil, many possibilities. Ultimately the point I am making is that depending on budget there are refresh juice options for everyone and all WHM should aim for the goal of using them in xp parties (unless there is an rdm present).


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:06 pm 
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Piellar wrote:
I play a Galka and just making it to level 25 WHM was a royal pain in the butt. >_< Terrible MP, no soloability and people don't invite WHMs for Dunes and Qufim unless you make your own party.

I'm not too sure about that Dunes party claim - I think I actually got more dunes invites as WHM than RDM. There's no convert and refresh yet so RDM doesn't have any advantage over WHM as healer at that point, actually the latter has a small advantage since WHM's basic MP pool is bigger.
Most dunes parties I've been to had a WHM and/or a PL.
Of course you're rights that WHM suck at soloing, at least on these 10 first levels since its damage output and armor is crap, but people manage to get through. I leveled it with /RDM though so it wasn't that bad.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:24 pm 
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Nightcoder wrote:
Piellar wrote:
I play a Galka and just making it to level 25 WHM was a royal pain in the butt. >_< Terrible MP, no soloability and people don't invite WHMs for Dunes and Qufim unless you make your own party.

I'm not too sure about that Dunes party claim - I think I actually got more dunes invites as WHM than RDM. There's no convert and refresh yet so RDM doesn't have any advantage over WHM as healer at that point, actually the latter has a small advantage since WHM's basic MP pool is bigger.
Most dunes parties I've been to had a WHM and/or a PL.
Of course you're rights that WHM suck at soloing, at least on these 10 first levels since its damage output and armor is crap, but people manage to get through. I leveled it with /RDM though so it wasn't that bad.


RDM has dual roles though at that level. RDM can pass off as a dd nuker in dunes and low level parties. Naturally it can get more invites because of that.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:44 pm 
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Kazaram wrote:
Nightcoder wrote:
Piellar wrote:
I play a Galka and just making it to level 25 WHM was a royal pain in the butt. >_< Terrible MP, no soloability and people don't invite WHMs for Dunes and Qufim unless you make your own party.

I'm not too sure about that Dunes party claim - I think I actually got more dunes invites as WHM than RDM. There's no convert and refresh yet so RDM doesn't have any advantage over WHM as healer at that point, actually the latter has a small advantage since WHM's basic MP pool is bigger.
Most dunes parties I've been to had a WHM and/or a PL.
Of course you're rights that WHM suck at soloing, at least on these 10 first levels since its damage output and armor is crap, but people manage to get through. I leveled it with /RDM though so it wasn't that bad.


RDM has dual roles though at that level. RDM can pass off as a dd nuker in dunes and low level parties. Naturally it can get more invites because of that.

That's weird because I actually had problems finding pt's as RDM15.


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