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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:45 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Niloc wrote:
Yup, trolling. Got it.



not agreeing with you isn't trolling. sorry if that hurts your feelings.


Always the feelings with you lol.

No I was saying you are a troll because you understand my argument, potentially agree/disagree but instead of talking about the main points you respond with "har har they are all in parties that's why!"

That's a troll comment. Thus the troll


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:47 pm 
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That's not a joke...

All of the RDM's wanting to XP are mostly in parties XP'ing. I was responding to your main points. I've done my best to ignore how many times you've changed your main points, or adjusted what you believe I believe, but I can only keep up so well.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:49 pm 
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Niloc wrote:
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RDM is better in exp than WHM 41-75 in 98%(+/-2%), fact. This is literally the only point I've been arguing this entire time.

WHM is better than no mage, also fact.


I can agree with this statement. Better yes, WHM will still perform just fine in infinite chain parties is all I'm saying.


Ok, cool. Your second point is irrelevant. OP asked why the leveling experience is bad for BLM+WHM. I gave them quick answer and didn't explain the nuances behind my reasoning. Now we're here. I hope we're all proud of the work we've contributed.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:49 pm 
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Kazen wrote:
Niloc wrote:
Kazen wrote:
RDM is better in exp than WHM 41-75 in 98%(+/-2%), fact. This is literally the only point I've been arguing this entire time.

WHM is better than no mage, also fact.


I can agree with this statement. Better yes, WHM will still perform just fine in infinite chain parties is all I'm saying.


Ok, cool. Your second point is irrelevant. OP asked why the leveling experience is bad for BLM+WHM. I gave them quick answer and didn't explain the nuances behind my reasoning. Now we're here. I hope we're all proud of the work we've contributed.



I'm always proud.

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Kazen wrote:
...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:02 pm 
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Zaiel wrote:
Can you give me a reason as to why BLM and especially WHM will be slower leveling? Just doesn't make sense to me coming from only ever playing retail.


1. Players on this server are by a large percentage not very good and or lazy, and don't SC. They'd rather autopilot and not pay attention and have a PL and watch netflix. Yes, it's often not worth it to save tp and back in the day people very often held onto TP way too long, but with the right jobs and attention, an extra 50-100% damage on a closing weaponskill is more than worth it. 1000-1500 TP for level 1 SC, up to 1600 TP for level 2, and 2000 TP for level 3 is technically good depending on the overkill situation. 3 stage skillchains are also extremely effective and even moreso with a BLM, but people are lazy.

2. Because of number 1, BLMs dont often get invites, it's not their fault, BUT they get used to manaburning so most blms dont have any idea how to actually play, so when they do get invites they're usually letdowns. They should know what MBs every type of skillchain so they can MB on the fly, they should know when to sit, when to not nuke due to overkill, when to finish mobs off, etc, bt they rarely do. There's also a magic acc issue, but ive invited a few actual good BLMs and that doesn't stop them from being equal or better than the average DD.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:38 am 
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Out of the 40 plus responses thank you for the few that gave insight, look forward to seeing you guys in game!


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