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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:39 am 
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So I was out in the desert, all by myself with no one around, when I had the fantastic idea of /BST to my already awesome WHM main. Just for fun, you know. So I warped back home, dropped a fair amount of gil on CHR, used Teleport-Altep from the menu like all good players do, and went out to use my new macro on the first Scorpion I saw. Success! I knew the money was well spent, as always. Fast forward 15 seconds, and my elation turns to pure confusion. The Scorpion pet had abruptly de-charmed and de-spawned right in front of my baffled eyes. A fluke, I thought...

Okay, I'll settle for a beetle. Maybe it was the way I smelled, or the Elvis-shaped birthmark on my ass, but the beetle left as quickly as the scorpion. As of this writing, we're still in the desert -- lost, and very alone...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:59 am 
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Your BST is lower lvl than your WHM right? That's why your charm isn't lasting. If your BST is only lvled up to 37, then when you switch to /bst you can only charm up to lvl 37.


If your WHM is lvl 50, then you need your BST to also be lvl 50 or higher for charm to work correctly


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:32 am 
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Yeah, I'm aware that's how it worked in retail, but I was under the impression charm rates/duration were affected by your main job's level here on Nas. Either way, that doesn't explain why the mob would simply stop attacking, lose all enmity and de-spawn.

Main: WHM 52
Sub: BST 32

Target levels-

Sand Beetle Lv36-40
Doom Scorpion Lv44-47

I only failed once out of 4 attempts between these VT~IT++ mobs with respect to a 32 BST, which should be nigh impossible. And we won't even talk about the plausibility of a 26 BST ever frankenburger. Anyhow, I relent, as I must have been thinking of that corpse they used to call Eden.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:46 pm 
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You could go whm/smn and make carbuncle go blow up gobbies lol

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:49 pm 
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It's likely cause the charmed scorpion was pulled more than 50' away from it's spawn, so u had the same experience as a thf using hide. Being 75 and the mob being too weak they wouldn't have auto aggroed you when charm dropped, instead lost aggro and despawned instead of running back to it's spot.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:58 pm 
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I solo on Job/bst often so I can verify that the charm success/length of time charmed do rely upon your real bst job being higher than your current main. But if that is correct, it works as it should on Nasomi.

What probably happens from a coding standpoint is you have the base CHR to land charm but then it checks your bst's level and notices the scorpion is IT and so about 15-20 seconds is what you'd expect from an uncharm there.

And of course on Nasomi they don't immediately aggro after charm drops. It's been so long since I played bst on retail that I had actually forgotten that was how it was supposed to be--so they'll despawn if you had continued running for the 30 seconds or so that you did.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:51 pm 
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The_Carrot wrote:
It's likely cause the charmed scorpion was pulled more than 50' away from it's spawn, so u had the same experience as a thf using hide. Being 75 and the mob being too weak they wouldn't have auto aggroed you when charm dropped, instead lost aggro and despawned instead of running back to it's spot.


I thought the same thing, but I tried again later, and didn't move a boar's neck away from where I charmed the mob. The same results resulted as a result.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:18 am 
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Bst was my first 75 and I can't even remember the last time I was in a pt. I have done so many jobs even as of yesterday being Job/Bst. I have never had issues and never have I worn any Chr gear either to charm as Job/Bst. If Chr even affects it at that point I can't be sure but does not seem so to me. Again something I can't prove , charm length seems to be what the mob checks to you. That lvl should check EP so they should have lasted a pretty long time. Maybe a glitchy night , who knows.


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