Thats totally fine. My point is the value added (regardless how much you value content vs gear) vs the time it takes to implement is far greater to just add gear to the loot pool of OWNM than to implement everything fully. Its been over 3 years and its not implemented. Adding gear to a loot pool would take an hour and actually provide value.

My question is just that... what VALUE does it add to the server? All content is doable with the currently available gear, so what value do those items really add. The ENMs/KSNMs add value because they provide content to spread the population out to additional content, and the rewards are just a biproduct of that.

I'll sell my Warwolf for 20M lol

Agreed - sure, there'd be some nice value in having some of the ENM items added in today (mainly the crafting mats that are impossible or very difficult to get like galateia, urushi, etc.), but I think most of us would prefer having 'something to do' over just another 'something to have'. Heck, it'd even be cool if there were some other out-of-era content to do, even if the potential rewards weren't anything to write home about: e.g.: silly stuff like force-popped "hard-mode" versions of ground kings (just jack their levels/stats/hp up by about 20 levels and remove the rage timer) that only drop non-body abjurations and black belt items, or something like the Limbus basement instances that are crazy difficult and award nothing more than some silly retail event item like Ark Tachi, etc. Having something like Einherjar eventually would be amazing too, but getting there would be a crap-ton of dev work since as far as I know there's little to none of it done in DSP/Topaz mainline, so nothing to easily adapt into Nasomi.

It'd be great if we could help out in some way with getting the additional stuff developed/coded in, even if it's just recording a bunch of junk from retail/etc. and submitting it anonymously. Technically, yeah, we could contribute to Topaz and offer that work up to be merged in, but I know that can potentially get a little tricky with ethics now that Topaz is technically AGPLv3 vs. the old DSP build that was all GPLv3 (assuming Nas wanted to follow Da Rulez and didn't want to have to publish his code base, or deal with people wanting to revoke their own contributions, blah blah blah), not to mention the potential difficulty in having to refactor everything to work with the current state of Nasomi and how it's evolved over time vs. current DSP/Topaz...

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I'd put cool pics of my achievements/items here, if they were anything interesting. How about "I pooped today! \o/"

It would just be claim botted for literal months straight with no oversight from Nas and the items sold at an incredibly overpriced markup if they were added to OWNMs in their current iteration. Not sure why anyone would think these items would suddenly just be available to everyone because they get added to OWNMs. If they are added to anything custom, BCNM/KSNMs or bust.

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This 100%.

Also, you can code your own fixes on DSP/Topaz/whatever and send them in to Nasomi. The only question is will it get implemented.

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Like the Wind still works.. just needs the treasure put back in the box. It isn't really content because it's just a pretty dumb easy fight easily solo'd by any skilled rdm or even just a nin/whm. It'd be fun stuff to synth for a little while.. would get old, overstocked, undercut, (and probably duped), just like everything else though.

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A few 'in-era-ish' things that would be awesome to have (and some that other servers have at least partially-implemented), even if some of them are just 'yet another thing you can do once a day':

• ENMs in general, even if they're easy fights
• Missing KS30's/BCNMs
• Waking the Beast quest line
• Pirate's chart
• Working Garrisons?!

Additional CoP stuffs:
• Storms of Fate / Apocalypse Nigh
• Ouryu Cometh (yeah I know it's pretty much an ENM)
• The Wyrmking Descends

ToAU:
• all the things.. man there's a lot (ZNMs, Astral Candy/Besieged stuffs, Assault, Salvage, Nyzul, Einherjar, ISNM, Pankration, others I'm sure I'm forgetting)

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I'd put cool pics of my achievements/items here, if they were anything interesting. How about "I pooped today! \o/"

A bunch of warwolfs have sold for 7mil or under the past few months.

I've been waiting for one in the 6.5, 6 range myself.

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Its cute you guys still think this stuff will be coming out. I am just asking for items he missed when he implemented OWNM. He gave us OWNM 20 that drop things no one really cares about, but failed to put in a lot of useful stuff. Why not rectify that? Even if it gets botted/monopolized for some time, its still better to have more of those items in circulation (not to mention claim shield helps with botting). I'd rather have some of the stuff marked up than not available at all.

Here you go:

Query mob_groups table to find the OWNM you want to add loot to. Get the dropid for that mob.
Look up item id you want to add via query or FFXIah
Example:
INSERT INTO `mob_droplist` VALUES (dropidhere,0,0,1000,17829,150); --hagun with 15% drop rate

Takes minutes to do and would make people happy. I would love new content as much as the next guy, but at this point it seems like a pipe dream and this takes no time to do.