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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:50 am 
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EVRYOEN NOES ITS PLAYER SKILL> GEAR!

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:33 am 
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That's all well and good but where the heck is the rave I was promised? I brought the glowsticks and copious amounts of E and there's no god damn rave... *walks away bitching and disappointed*


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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:10 pm 
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Kubisnaxx wrote:
Cilarnen wrote:
EVRYOEN NOES ITS PLAYER SKILL> GEAR!


I sure wish player skill let BLMs nuke Fafnir without getting resisted :(



Burn , Rasp , Choke , Frost [You can have this.] Prolly wont help on Faffy , but I c too many BLM's NOT using em.. they help, cost nada mp, and raises ur Elemental skill... What more do u want ? :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:19 pm 
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Kubisnaxx wrote:
1. All four of those won't stack
2. People don't use DoTs on HNMs
3. If you're skilling up elemental magic on an HNM, you probably shouldn't be there in the first place
4. 75mp for 3 elemental DoTs is quite a bit of mp in a party setting if you don't have forms of refresh, and knowing mog house parties, you are lucky to get it at all


1. Burn/Choke/Shock or Frost/Drown/Rasp are the choices. I think he was just listing the ones he could think of to draw people's attention to the family of spells, not saying to use all 4 (or 6) on every mob.
2. Why would you not use DoTs on HNMs? Are they sleepable on this server? (serious question) A 75 BLM or RDM/BLM can easily gear for 100 INT making each spell do 120 damage unresisted and also reducing 3 of the target's stats by 11 (INT/VIT/MND or AGI/DEX/STR).
3. Agreed, but he specifically stated "won't help on faffy," and then you criticize him for hypothetically skilling up on an HNM. At the very least in exp you can use burn to lower your target's INT and maybe get an extra skill up.
4. Have you done a /sea all inv lately? It's nothing but THFs and RDMs (yeehaw, refresh!). Also, why do you assume everyone is in Mog House?

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:20 pm 
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Kubisnaxx wrote:
Aramiltaru wrote:
Kubisnaxx wrote:
1. All four of those won't stack
2. People don't use DoTs on HNMs
3. If you're skilling up elemental magic on an HNM, you probably shouldn't be there in the first place
4. 75mp for 3 elemental DoTs is quite a bit of mp in a party setting if you don't have forms of refresh, and knowing mog house parties, you are lucky to get it at all


1. Burn/Choke/Shock or Frost/Drown/Rasp are the choices. I think he was just listing the ones he could think of to draw people's attention to the family of spells, not saying to use all 4 (or 6) on every mob.
2. Why would you not use DoTs on HNMs? Are they sleepable on this server? (serious question) A 75 BLM or RDM/BLM can easily gear for 100 INT making each spell do 120 damage unresisted and also reducing 3 of the target's stats by 11 (INT/VIT/MND or AGI/DEX/STR).
3. Agreed, but he specifically stated "won't help on faffy," and then you criticize him for hypothetically skilling up on an HNM. At the very least in exp you can use burn to lower your target's INT and maybe get an extra skill up.
4. Have you done a /sea all inv lately? It's nothing but THFs and RDMs (yeehaw, refresh!). Also, why do you assume everyone is in Mog House?



Yeah a very well geared RDM can sleep it or someone can get lucky and sleep an HNM, and I assume everyone is because a majority of them do not play their job right or are not geared/skilled enough to play it how it should be played. I have been a part of a large amount of it



Lol I only listed them because I see no BLM use either om them EVER.. And yes I know they dont stack, but 2 works together, I belive this is the combos u can make.
Frost-Shock
Rasp-Burn
Drown-Choke

And ofcourse u dont go skilling on a HNM... Didnt u read not work on Faffy ?

Personally I used Burn or Shock on every mob when in PT xping on retail as BLM. As it lowers INT that again lets ur spells hit for a few more dmg (not much but some) AND you get DOT dmg..

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:41 pm 
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Again, F.... HNMLS, im talking XP pt :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
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Kubisnaxx wrote:
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Again, F.... HNMLS, im talking XP pt :)


then props to the Mog House BLM that actually uses the elemental DoTs in an exp party :lol:


heheh true dat ! Hopefully we will see more use of the spells.. ( then happy happy Taru here )

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:33 pm 
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/nin is the best blm sub until 50 unless your party for some reason needs you /whm (poisona, bar spells). But that should rarely/never be the case.

/nin will give you more int with dual wands and if you don't think pulling hate and tanking a mob without taking damage is useful then... you dumb.

I've saved countless people as blm/nin by pulling hate when the healer was out of MP and then burning the mob down with my 6 shadows, way better than dropping a 60 point cure2 because you have low mnd and low healing skill at that level.

Burn is a great spell that I almost always cast at the start of the fight but dropping all three stacking DoTs is a huge waste of MP at the levels where you'd be /nin, you could have killed the mob and taken a knee in that amount of time with a good party.

That said, you do have to be smart enough to wait until your THF gets their SATA off before you blow things up. But that also requires your tank to stop moving and let the thief get into position. I cannot tell you how many times I've tried to position for SATA just to have the tank move on me because they're trying to help. Tanks should only need to reposition if the mob is backed into a wall / on uneven terrain (because SA and elevation changes don't play nicely on nasomi). Mages should be positioned so that breath abilities aren't a huge concern on pull.


Last edited by rori on Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:35 pm 
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Kubisnaxx wrote:
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Again, F.... HNMLS, im talking XP pt :)


then props to the Mog House BLM that actually uses the elemental DoTs in an exp party :lol:

i knew moghouse would see the butt end of stereotyping

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 Post subject: Re: Rants and Raves
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:33 am 
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XooZQ wrote:
"But, when you take that invite, you're now sharing the clock with 5 other people."







Rant Over.


Correct me if I'm wrong but If a player is the one RECEIVING the invite and not ASKING for it, and you say there are 5 other people who's time is invested, wouldn't that make it the sole responsibilty of the party leader to make sure he/she is getting a party member who is level'd/geared properly? If you invite a player who is gimp by either SJ or lack of gear, that IMO is solely on you. They aren't imposing their will upon you, you are just simply asking for it lol. - Less QQ more pew pew!!!


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