These things are automatic drama generators and Nasomi stays physically as far away from drama as possible (rightfully so).

By keeping Discord servers linkshell-owned, the responsibility of moderating drama is relegated to linkshells and their individual policies.

There's also possibly legal problems associated with people posting unsavory content on an official Nasomi Discord (witch hunting, CP, etc).

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In my opinion FFXI is so foreign and uninviting to newcomers (of this era) that they often leave before they figure out how to join a linkshell. They never get the help/have specific questions answered in the first place.

People need their hands held these days (at least until they’re hooked) or they get frustrated/lose interest.

Thats fine. If thats nasomis reason I can respect that. Again, though, I dont know if this is you guessing at his reasoning.

I agree with your sentiment, but I think new players must be willing to make the first step and seek out help. It isn't really difficult to find at all.

I started a month ago and the veterans here on forums published detailed gil-making guides, in-game people offered help and a link pearl, I want a poster of Meeep in my bedroom because his fishing guide is so awesome, etc. Today I'm not a galka hobbo and can help other people because I got the resources to buy a couple of things now and then. Luv y'all :3

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People gave you all the reasons nasomi doesnt want a server discord on the first page. It does not matter if 90% of the community wanted a server discord. The 10% that want to play the game without discord are who he cares about. If there is even a remotely official server discord, there will be constant pressure for members of xp parties, mission parties, and random other things to join discord because "I dont want to type, it's so much easier to not type". They should not have to, and yet they will face unsanctioned consequences for not doing so. It's similar to why parsing tools are officially not allowed. Nas isnt going to have people using a bunch of 3rd party programs to shit on other players, whether that be discord, xp per hour meters, dps parsers, etc.

Reasons from nas:

1. It's another place he has to moderate. He will NOT allow someone else to moderate for him. By extension, it's another place he has to watch in general. By extension, he would need to watch 2 different logs, stored in 2 different ways.

2. It's a global chat. Naschat is too but naschat is for support more than anything else. I can almost guarantee if naschat had 1k+ people in it chatting then it'd get shut down too.

3. You need to register to use discord. No, not everyone has a discord account, and you can't expect people to chat in some official nasomi chat to sign up for one.

4. You'd be expected to download discord. No, not everyone has discord or wants to download something to chat in some official nasomi chat.

Naschat requires NO registration (can if you want), NO download (can if you want, download ANY irc client; no, the web client for discord isn't acceptable), is the ONE chat moderated by nas, and is used for support.

Nas is aware that people do NOT want to be forced to use discord. He knows what it would end up becoming. He knows how to handle his community.

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People gave me reasons. Not Nasomi. I cant find posts made by Nasomi on the subject of Discord, and no one is directly referencing him.

I'm doing my best to address questions but I've only just gotten off the subway. Naschat could very easily be moved to discord without changing or upgrading its functionality- and thats essentially all I'm asking for.

I don't think having voice channels or LFG in discord is a good idea- I apologize if I didn't make that clear earlier. The only reason it might require more moderation is because people would actually use it.

Edit: Sorry Nabutso, I typed this up before I had seen your response- giving that a read now.

I have just directly referenced him.

You don't get it. Naschat isn't meant to be used to chat between players and organize parties and talk shit about people (what would happen in discord).

Naschat is for support. For players to talk about issues, bugs, to contact nas if they need to (but remember to read the channel title first). For help installing, registering, for talking about being new to the game. Yes people sometimes talk normally in there, but that isn't often nor is it what it'd intended to do.

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1. Understandable- though I would say just get rid of naschat and move it to discord. Mimic the functionality without adding to it and you have a much more accessible (and not outdated) platform for newer players.

2. "I can almost guarantee if naschat had 1k+ people in it chatting then it'd get shut down too." In that case, fine. Considering that he wouldn't want others moderating for him I understand.

3. I personally don't see the issue with registering for discord.

4. Discord has a webclient.


I understand why you and others are concerned that people would feel forced to use discord- but if you limit its functionality/use to that of IRC I don't think people would feel like they're obligated to be on it-- do you feel as though you are forced to be on Naschat? Discord is just the IRC/vent/teamspeak of 2018. These days its what people use because everything else has fallen behind. I don't mean to give offense, you might think it hasnt, but the proof is in the userbase.

1. He will never replace naschat with something that is less functional as naschat and more functional as a global shit-talking chat.

2. Good.

3. You don't. You. Key word.

4. A shitty one. You can use whatever web client you want for irc including the one found right on naschat. It isn't slow. It isn't laggy.

Discord is not the IRC/Vent/teamspeak of 2018. Discord won't exist in 5, 10, or 15 years and IRC will. No one here cares about "falling behind". It isn't what "I" think. You're the odd one out here. We will not use discord. Nas will not use discord. Go make your own linkshell discord.

Nas doesn't collect your data in naschat.

Nas cares about your privacy.

Nas doesn't deliver malware through his chat.

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