Nabutso says things like that because he has personal boundary problems, which is a common affliction among people who are highly codependent. Look up the persecutor/victim/rescuer triangle. It is why he is arguably the biggest mixed bag on the server.

I say things which are true based on my experiences.

When I meet a dualboxer who plays both characters as well as they could've played just 1, I will 180 on the subject.

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Then mention your experiences instead of just making blanket statements. What is true for you is not necessarily true for others. You'd likely meet some fantastic dualboxers frequently if you had not alienated the majority of the endgame community for one reason or another.

Why are you using that standard? That's not how dualboxers measure their own success. A dualboxer is not two people, but apparently you want to be fooled into believing that they are? Why is that their responsibility?

It's not about fooling me, it's about doing so well that I can't tell. What that means is that they're performing as well as I'd expect a great player to when focusing everything, their reaction time, positioning, etc, on just one character. If they aren't performing to that level, and I know it's harsh, then why take them playing 2 characters when, given the pop boom, you could take 1 more person instead?

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In the early game, you will find that the Dunes are ridiculously overcamped, 4 parties pulling the same bunch of lizards for levels 12-13 being fairly common. The usual experience is receiving passive-aggressive tells, a powerleveler holding one or two extra mobs their group is not fighting yet, a beastmaster soloing among the crowd for some reason, it can be a shitfest at times. This situation will happen sometimes during your leveling, and you'll have a choice between toughing it up (hopefully leveraging your own PL), or being pushed out to another zone where your XP/hour will be slower but mostly stress-free.



Before level 50, from best to worst:

• Tanks, BRD and COR regularly receive unsolicited whispers for group invites and should be invited within 10 minutes of setting their flag up.
• SAM, DRK, DRG, RNG have no problem looking for a group and may receive unsolicited invites.
• MNK, BLU, dps WAR and grouping BSTs are ... okay, and will eventually get an invite with their flag up.
• All mages have a very bad time waiting for a group invite because mages have downtime and healing under ~level 40 can be done entirely by a PL outside the group. People who form groups won't pick a mage DPS unless they have no one else to choose from. They are better off making their own group themselves using Quick Links > Party Finder at the top of this page. THFs too, because there are just too many of them.

One option to consider after you've made some friends on Nasomi, make a static 6-man group with them and meet up on scheduled nights to level up in camps, advance the story as a group and go on money-making expeditions. I've had a whole lot more fun here since I started doing that, no need to deal with the randomness of party availability. Welcome to Nasomi!

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Nabutso, since you didn't answer my question, I'm going to assume that you can't think of a good reason why anyone (but you) would use your harsh standard.

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That is not an answer. That is you paraphrasing a repeat of your standard and burying a question of your own into a conditional statement in an attempt to shift the burden to me.

The best I can do is... there are too many people?

If so, there's no warrant for why a high population warrants dualboxers passing your Turing test.