My first tick at 75WHM/37BLM is 24. 2nd tick is 25. The pattern is +24, +25, +26 etc.

Still wrong as it should be 2 each tick, but it isn't starting at 20.

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75 WHM has Clear Mind IV which is supposed to be +24, +26, +28, etc. but instead it's +24, +25, +26, etc. It's not an era thing, it actually just needs to be fixed. It doesn't seem like a lot, but it really adds up over time.

SMN and BLM 75 should be getting +27, +30, +33, etc. but instead are getting +27, +28, +29, etc.

Someone posted about BLU's clear mind working this way too when they equip the proper spells.

For comparison, RDM only gets Clear Mind III finally when they hit 75, so for levels 1-74 they have their full MP management kits.

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this was more funny before everyone copied Kanodin

I see. Still a pretty massive bummer though.
10 ticks with the correct pattern is 330 MP recovered, but with the pattern you're getting it's only 285.
That's a pretty substantial difference.



Yikes, that's even more impactful for SMN and BLM. It's no wonder the server gets off to TP burning.

I actually did some testing on this after BLU clear mind was adjusted recently, and noticed something interesting. Either I'm crazy and just wasn't paying enough attention, or the higher tiers of Clear Mind's cumulative effect only seem to work while under the effect of Level Restriction here.

I equipped tier 3 Clear Mind on my BLU and sent my WHM alt to the Sacrarium to compare BLU vs. WHM, and it didn't work for BLU in Windurst Woods but it worked for my WHM alt. When I sent my WHM outside to Mis. Coast to compare Clear Mind IV BLU vs. WHM, it didn't work for either of them. I checked 50cap Riverne on WHM and got similar results to the Sacrarium. Finally I tried 60cap Pso'xja vs. uncapped Pso'xja and I got the correct results in 60cap but not in uncapped. Someone else is welcome to double check and make sure I wasn't just seeing things if they want.

I couldn't test BLU Clear Mind III+ since iirc you get tier 3 at 61+ as BLU, so there was no available place to get the restriction effect.

Okay I was able to test BLM tonight and the incremental is indeed +3 with a first tock of 27 at level 75. My SMN is only 52 at the moment so I'll try and test CM3 on it. Maybe it is only WHM that is broken.

EDIT: SMN seems to have accurate clear mind 3: 21 on the first and 23 on the second. Yes, I accounted for auto refresh.

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this was more funny before everyone copied Kanodin

Rdm being more sought after than whm is only true much later, around level 60. Rdm has a small mp pool, and although yes, refresh is god like, it doesn’t cure you. Rdm gets haste/cure 4 later than whm at 48, and they dont get access to good MP boosting until about 60, making convert hard to last 10 minutes. I certainly wouldnt invite a rdm to main heal at level 41 without a PL.

What if only Clear Mind IV specifically is bugged, so only near max-level WHM and BLU can see it? Or a SMN/BLM sync'ed 60?

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RDM gets a lot of pt invites around level ~50ish. I frequently even get unsolicited invites. Last few parties I've been to had virtually no downtime and in some I was the only mage (though there was a PLD as well), so I beg to differ in this case, but it's more than fine if you have your opinion - actually it's a good thing to know that there are people looking specifically for WHM because I'm trying to level it as well.

A larger MP pool is useless once you have spent the extra MP if you are, on average, spending mp faster than you are recovering it. A WHM does not have any MP recovery tools except resting, whereas RDM also has both refresh and convert. Therefore, even if a RDM's initial MP pool is smaller, their effective MP pool is significantly larger. If you are using a Paladin, they also increase the Paladin's effective MP pool several times over. I'd much rather have a RDM try to main heal at 41 than have a WHM try to do the same.

I think it depends on the WHM and RDM in question, and their intelligence. If you're just picking up random players from the pool, RDM has a lot more room for error because of their effective MP... making them the superior option, if you're just picking blindly.

As someone who is now at 50 on WHM and climbing, I can say that it's possible to make them basically the same for most parties up to this point at least . (Obviously, strictly healing purposes).

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