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cyber857
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:42 am 
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Therin wrote:
Deleting all the TOAU gear would be foolish. The only thing that makes sense is PW gear. Sorry about your Hachiman body.



I mean im a bit salty but if they are saying ti was "Ez mode" get rid of it all. All the crafted stuff, all the turbans, all the pw gear etc. Wipe the Toau gear and lets start over. I'm more pissed I'm losing my money but the sellers and everyone else is not. But this probably as more to do with misery loving company than any sort of well thought out plan.
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Nekozuko
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:44 am 
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cyber857 wrote:
Therin wrote:
Deleting all the TOAU gear would be foolish. The only thing that makes sense is PW gear. Sorry about your Hachiman body.



I mean im a bit salty but if they are saying ti was "Ez mode" get rid of it all. All the crafted stuff, all the turbans, all the pw gear etc. Wipe the Toau gear and lets start over. I'm more pissed I'm losing my money but the sellers and everyone else is not. But this probably as more to do with misery loving company than any sort of well thought out plan.



To be fair turban was harder to get Pre Toau return, so it doesn't make sense to reroll that.

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Wolffhardt
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:46 am 
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Kazen wrote:
cyber857 wrote:
What about all the people who bought bronze coins from the ah and got turbans? or the ones who bought that reg neck piece 75 (made with zmn / pw drops) what about all those? the craters and farmers already made their money from people like me who bought a pw item. Why should I get penalized for buying an item that came from a "broken" era when the farmers and sellers profited. Don't forget things like beak necklace etc, were all items that came from the same "exploitation" of the toau area.

I can get behind the idea of people taking the items away but lets be honest, penalize the alliances that found and sold those items as well. otherwise the buyers are getting penalized instead of the people that broke whatever "Rules" were in place no one knew about.


You knew the item was obtainable in a way that wasn't retail accurate, don't act like you thought everyone was killing ToAU era PW for them. I for one have expected to lose all of my ToAU gear when this was finally announced.



god am I saving this post or what

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Kazen wrote:
...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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Kazen
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:47 am 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Kazen wrote:
cyber857 wrote:
What about all the people who bought bronze coins from the ah and got turbans? or the ones who bought that reg neck piece 75 (made with zmn / pw drops) what about all those? the craters and farmers already made their money from people like me who bought a pw item. Why should I get penalized for buying an item that came from a "broken" era when the farmers and sellers profited. Don't forget things like beak necklace etc, were all items that came from the same "exploitation" of the toau area.

I can get behind the idea of people taking the items away but lets be honest, penalize the alliances that found and sold those items as well. otherwise the buyers are getting penalized instead of the people that broke whatever "Rules" were in place no one knew about.


You knew the item was obtainable in a way that wasn't retail accurate, don't act like you thought everyone was killing ToAU era PW for them. I for one have expected to lose all of my ToAU gear when this was finally announced.



god am I saving this post or what


lol?

Edit: The entirety of ToAU has been busted since I've started. If you didn't expect this you're fooling yourself.

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Wolffhardt
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:48 am 
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Kazen wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Kazen wrote:

You knew the item was obtainable in a way that wasn't retail accurate, don't act like you thought everyone was killing ToAU era PW for them. I for one have expected to lose all of my ToAU gear when this was finally announced.



god am I saving this post or what


lol?


You're an extremely smart person (Not a troll).. You know the irony of the post you made, and how much mileage that's gonna give me.

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Kazen wrote:
...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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Kazen
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:50 am 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Kazen wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:


god am I saving this post or what


lol?


You're an extremely smart person (Not a troll).. You know the irony of the post you made, and how much mileage that's gonna give me.


No I really don't, the only thing I can assume you're speaking about is AV, which if you want to jump down that rabbit hole, we can.

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Concepcion
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:56 am 
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Kazen wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Kazen wrote:

You knew the item was obtainable in a way that wasn't retail accurate, don't act like you thought everyone was killing ToAU era PW for them. I for one have expected to lose all of my ToAU gear when this was finally announced.



god am I saving this post or what


lol?

Edit: The entirety of ToAU has been busted since I've started. If you didn't expect this you're fooling yourself.


Player shouldn’t be penalized for the owner deciding to leave it in that state.

it isn’t healthy for the economy or the server to heck with tradable items like this.


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Tahtertaht
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:58 am 
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Just curious, how is PW items any different then easy relic with repeatable dynamis all day? Or crash zone HNM 20x a day? Was there anything implemented then to "correct" the issue like nasomi is doing now?

Correct anything that I posted because it's all rumors for me at this point.


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Kazen
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:01 am 
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Tahtertaht wrote:
Just curious, how is PW items any different then easy relic with repeatable dynamis all day? Or crash zone HNM 20x a day?


He's already tried repealing relics and when more than half his endgame population quit instantly he reverted it. Since then he has come out and said he has no plans to make relic weapons harder to obtain. EDIT: Also when was Dynamis repeatable "all day"?

As for the HNM spawning 20x a day via zone crashing, I wasn't around for it but I'd love for a rollback of all that gear but it won't happen.

Those are both not 1:1 situations to the entirety of an expansion being rolled out.

Still waiting for where Wolf thinks I'm being super ironic.

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Therin
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:15 am 
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cyber857 wrote:
Therin wrote:
Deleting all the TOAU gear would be foolish. The only thing that makes sense is PW gear. Sorry about your Hachiman body.



I mean im a bit salty but if they are saying ti was "Ez mode" get rid of it all. All the crafted stuff, all the turbans, all the pw gear etc. Wipe the Toau gear and lets start over. I'm more pissed I'm losing my money but the sellers and everyone else is not. But this probably as more to do with misery loving company than any sort of well thought out plan.


The majority of TOAU gear was harder to obtain on Nasomi. Many NMs could be killed with 2-3 people on retail but on Nasomi it requires larger groups because they're level 99.

Similarly, Khimaira here is significantly harder than retail. He has the same logic but hits for 600+ and 3000+ Tourbillons, and resists everything. On retail he could be killed by 4-6.

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