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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:26 pm 
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One is active price fixing, the other is realizing that not undercutting someone would result in them not undercutting you.

Also, I appreciate your wisdom, but I can actually do whatever I want.

One gas station can decide to match the gas station's price across the street, because they arrive at the same price and decide that that makes sense. Once that gas station talks to the other gas station, and they decide the gas prices should just be this, no matter what the supply is doing, they're breaking the law.

It's not the same thing.

Your proposal is saying "We can sell it for X, if we all sell it for X, because we're the only supplies". Doesn't matter what the supply of mats is, because we can just control the end price.

That's not the same as saying, "Y is selling X for 400k, and if I sell it for 390.. He'll just sell it for 380. I should sell it for 400".


This doesn't have to be rocket science.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:30 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
One is active price fixing, the other is realizing that not undercutting someone would result in them not undercutting you.

Also, I appreciate your wisdom, but I can actually do whatever I want.

Sigh.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:33 pm 
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I edited my post further, because being short seemed to undersell my point.

I believe this is where you'd tell me that if suddenly there was a much larger supply of ores for staves, that you'd all reconvene your commission and decide to lower your price out of the goodness of your hearts...

Which is when I'd laugh at you until I pass out.

(annnnd thus the difference)

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:40 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
One is active price fixing, the other is realizing that not undercutting someone would result in them not undercutting you.

Also, I appreciate your wisdom, but I can actually do whatever I want.

One gas station can decide to match the gas station's price across the street, because they arrive at the same price and decide that that makes sense. Once that gas station talks to the other gas station, and they decide the gas prices should just be this, no matter what the supply is doing, they're breaking the law.

It's not the same thing.

Your proposal is saying "We can sell it for X, if we all sell it for X, because we're the only supplies". Doesn't matter what the supply of mats is, because we can just control the end price.

That's not the same as saying, "Y is selling X for 400k, and if I sell it for 390.. He'll just sell it for 380. I should sell it for 400".


This doesn't have to be rocket science.

The idea that everyone would not speak and match each other is extremely naive. If people don't talk, they don't trust each other. If people don't trust each other, unfortunately it's just about who gets the biggest pieces on the way down.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:42 pm 
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Well.. I think we've reached the natural conclusion then.

Good luck out there, Ukko.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:45 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Well.. I think we've reached the natural conclusion then.

Good luck out there, Ukko.

Appreciate the petty passive-aggressive stuff, very mature.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:47 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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just imagine how much it could've been tho

Definitely could have gone better, agreed. But almost exclusively if people communicate.


just feel like it needs to be said:

I dont have the same moral issues as Exelyon, and if any/all CC want to price fix.. Let me know. If we want to eff up that Federation Gi market, holler.

Also what? How do you post this and then immediately talk down on discussing pricing? I don't even.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:48 pm 
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Your radar's off.

I was being sincere, I don't believe there's anything else to say. If my post above doesn't explain to you the difference between what you'd like to have happen, and what was happening prior according to Exe, I don't believe there's anything else to say? Deciding to undercut because you don't have an active agreement in place to price fix is pretty.... well, mature as you'd say.

I also meant the good luck out there. I don't do WW or GSM. I don't particularly care if you burn it to the ground.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:48 pm 
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Ukko wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
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Definitely could have gone better, agreed. But almost exclusively if people communicate.


just feel like it needs to be said:

I dont have the same moral issues as Exelyon, and if any/all CC want to price fix.. Let me know. If we want to eff up that Federation Gi market, holler.

Also what? How do you post this and then immediately talk down on discussing pricing? I don't even.



cause jokes are funny?

To be clear to everyone, including Ukko, i'm not interested in price fixing an item that literally dozens of ppl can make at t3 and sell for 20k each.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:53 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Ukko wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:

just feel like it needs to be said:

I dont have the same moral issues as Exelyon, and if any/all CC want to price fix.. Let me know. If we want to eff up that Federation Gi market, holler.

Also what? How do you post this and then immediately talk down on discussing pricing? I don't even.



cause jokes are funny?

To be clear to everyone, including Ukko, i'm not interested in price fixing an item that literally dozens of ppl can make at t3 and sell for 20k each.

I did not catch that this was sarcastic. Obviously the Fed Gi was silly but yeah, should make that a little more obvious next time I think lol


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