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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:06 am 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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Unless I missed your parse, the irony of this is crippling



I didn't profess to parse. I didn't reference a data point in my argument. I have an anecdote.

But saying your have a parse, and then not posting the parse makes noting that its a parse irrelevant.


So one person has a parse proving his point, but doesn’t want to post it and it’s irrelevant

Another person has an unsupported opinion... with nothing to back it up at all, but it’s definitely relevant?

Just want to keep up


My opinion isn't unsupported. There is consensus from other users in the thread. It's not as scientific as a parse, but I haven't exactly seen a parse either.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:54 am 
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Your consensus is you and frobo vs. skitles, wolff, and me?

I didn't do the parse.

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https://medium.com/@ckreibich/how-to-as ... ef791cb38c


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:35 am 
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As far as THF goes until you get viper bite, sword or h2h do much better. Shit a rubber band shooting a wet noodle does better then low lv daggers.
Combo will see better SA numbers then fast blade so it looks more pleasing, parse wise who gives a shit.

As for nin, I feel like katanas are fine.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:52 am 
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At Dunes levels, H2H thf/mnk is better.

I hit a few 200-300 boost + Sneak attack combo in the dunes when I leveled my thf.

However, as soon as you hit 20, thf/nin with sword mainhand and dagger offhand becomes better because of dual wield.

Also, spam those damn acid bolts! Gonna need to level marksmanship for thf anyway. You'd be surprised how much an acid bolt proc increases damage for the whole party at the low levels, not to mention increases the speed of to building on low level thf.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:10 am 
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/MNK and H2H is by far the best sub in the dunes, after that who cares rock either sword or H2H until you get Viper Bite. You’re probably going to be pulling so /NIN with sword main hand until Viper Bite is advisable because H2H when /NIN just isn’t as good.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:18 pm 
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This thread is great evidence that parsing should be made acceptable. People are curious about damage data. It shouldn’t be against the rules to measure damage to try and find the best dps. H2h and /mnk felt super strong for thf back when I leveled it. I’m sure if sword is better it isn’t by much. Two swords very likely is stronger. So at 20, I’d switch to that. Strongly disagree with a ninja using sword. Retsu is very strong with a good set.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:46 pm 
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Cant tell you how many sync parties I was in with low level nins hitting for 0 with crappy katanas :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:07 pm 
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sprinkle wrote:
Cant tell you how many sync parties I was in with low level nins hitting for 0 with crappy katanas :)


For this reason, at least in the dunes, it might be worth considering using Great Katana on NIN. At level 18, you can stock up on Shuriken from Tenshodo npc's, which should help quite a bit from 20-30ish.

For THF, I feel like gearing and playing it like a RNG with Sneak Attack in the low levels may still be the way to go, despite the RNG nerf. "D" ranked sword, and "E" ranked H2H will likely build tp much slower than "C+/C-" marksmanship/archery, even if you have to move back to an optimal range. There's more ranged accuracy gear available at those levels as well. Since THF doesn't get access to the good low level swords like Bee Spatha +1, and Auriga Xiphos, but does have access to the best low level H2H weapons (Legionare's/Republic Knuckles), /MNK for SA + Boost + Combo while TP'ing almost exclusively from bolts/arrows seems like it would yield the best overall dps in the lower levels.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:25 pm 
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AraY wrote:
/MNK and H2H is by far the best sub in the dunes, after that who cares rock either sword or H2H until you get Viper Bite. You’re probably going to be pulling so /NIN with sword main hand until Viper Bite is advisable because H2H when /NIN just isn’t as good.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:41 am 
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Just use a level appropriate weapon when you level synch...for the love of all things holy please do this.


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