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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:53 pm 
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You won't get any helpful replies since most who know what is going on dont wanna get caught or wanna be accused of cheating but here is whats going on.
There are apps who tell ya when a mob spawns but in Simurghs case the app will show Simurgh around 20 secs before pop (must be an error on Nasomis client).
Since Chainspell has a duration of 30 sec, you will definitly be in the pop window.

So yeah, best use of that vid will be to ask for staff/nasomi in the chat and scew those guys here, they probably knew whats going on from the start.
So good job for posting this mate and get wrecked in mordion, cheaters.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:30 pm 
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Nobody gonna get rekt, this thread is dumb clearly party A lost claim to party B then party A cried when they lost claim. The end.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:36 pm 
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LoveTorque wrote:
You won't get any helpful replies since most who know what is going on dont wanna get caught or wanna be accused of cheating but here is whats going on.
There are apps who tell ya when a mob spawns but in Simurghs case the app will show Simurgh around 20 secs before pop (must be an error on Nasomis client).
Since Chainspell has a duration of 30 sec, you will definitly be in the pop window.

So yeah, best use of that vid will be to ask for staff/nasomi in the chat and scew those guys here, they probably knew whats going on from the start.
So good job for posting this mate and get wrecked in mordion, cheaters.


It's not even just an external app, it's just how Widescan works here (and on other private servers) in general. You'll see the same thing at behe/turtle/etc. You'll also see how they sometimes "spawn" invisible in one place and then randomly "teleport" to another place before they actually turn visible (turtle does this a lot). Of course, there are plenty of people that abuse the mechanics with third-party apps/unapproved plugins/etc., but not everyone. E.g.: it's very common to have people go /bst to behe and call out in Discord when/where they see it show up on Widescan, and everyone starts running at them ASAP. Looks shady as heck from outside, but no third-party shenanigans involved.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:40 pm 
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Gollum wrote:
LoveTorque wrote:
You won't get any helpful replies since most who know what is going on dont wanna get caught or wanna be accused of cheating but here is whats going on.
There are apps who tell ya when a mob spawns but in Simurghs case the app will show Simurgh around 20 secs before pop (must be an error on Nasomis client).
Since Chainspell has a duration of 30 sec, you will definitly be in the pop window.

So yeah, best use of that vid will be to ask for staff/nasomi in the chat and scew those guys here, they probably knew whats going on from the start.
So good job for posting this mate and get wrecked in mordion, cheaters.


It's not even just an external app, it's just how Widescan works here (and on other private servers) in general. You'll see the same thing at behe/turtle/etc. You'll also see how they sometimes "spawn" invisible in one place and then randomly "teleport" to another place before they actually turn visible (turtle does this a lot). Of course, there are plenty of people that abuse the mechanics with third-party apps/unapproved plugins/etc., but not everyone. E.g.: it's very common to have people go /bst to behe and call out in Discord when/where they see it show up on Widescan, and everyone starts running at them ASAP. Looks shady as heck from outside, but no third-party shenanigans involved.


nah it appears on the thirdparty app before it does on widescan

as was proven when titanslave said he saw it on widescan, but other people didnt, he was swiftly banned 10 seconds later when simurgh actually appeared

LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:14 pm 
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wait wasnt zigma banned?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:25 pm 
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Trist wrote:
Gollum wrote:
LoveTorque wrote:
You won't get any helpful replies since most who know what is going on dont wanna get caught or wanna be accused of cheating but here is whats going on.
There are apps who tell ya when a mob spawns but in Simurghs case the app will show Simurgh around 20 secs before pop (must be an error on Nasomis client).
Since Chainspell has a duration of 30 sec, you will definitly be in the pop window.

So yeah, best use of that vid will be to ask for staff/nasomi in the chat and scew those guys here, they probably knew whats going on from the start.
So good job for posting this mate and get wrecked in mordion, cheaters.


It's not even just an external app, it's just how Widescan works here (and on other private servers) in general. You'll see the same thing at behe/turtle/etc. You'll also see how they sometimes "spawn" invisible in one place and then randomly "teleport" to another place before they actually turn visible (turtle does this a lot). Of course, there are plenty of people that abuse the mechanics with third-party apps/unapproved plugins/etc., but not everyone. E.g.: it's very common to have people go /bst to behe and call out in Discord when/where they see it show up on Widescan, and everyone starts running at them ASAP. Looks shady as heck from outside, but no third-party shenanigans involved.


nah it appears on the thirdparty app before it does on widescan

as was proven when titanslave said he saw it on widescan, but other people didnt, he was swiftly banned 10 seconds later when simurgh actually appeared

LOL


It's likely they're just using addons that are heavily used on retail by using an updated and custom Ashita client but aren't allowed or usable by most people on Nasomi due to him using a very outdated Ashita v2. One of them grants widescan to everyone regardless of job, but it is detectable if the server owner knows how. Another one grants you the ability to spam claim specific monsters via mobID. Zigma probably knows more about this than I do though :)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:36 pm 
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Tex wrote:
Trist wrote:
Gollum wrote:

It's not even just an external app, it's just how Widescan works here (and on other private servers) in general. You'll see the same thing at behe/turtle/etc. You'll also see how they sometimes "spawn" invisible in one place and then randomly "teleport" to another place before they actually turn visible (turtle does this a lot). Of course, there are plenty of people that abuse the mechanics with third-party apps/unapproved plugins/etc., but not everyone. E.g.: it's very common to have people go /bst to behe and call out in Discord when/where they see it show up on Widescan, and everyone starts running at them ASAP. Looks shady as heck from outside, but no third-party shenanigans involved.


nah it appears on the thirdparty app before it does on widescan

as was proven when titanslave said he saw it on widescan, but other people didnt, he was swiftly banned 10 seconds later when simurgh actually appeared

LOL


It's likely they're just using addons that are heavily used on retail by using an updated and custom Ashita client but aren't allowed or usable by most people on Nasomi due to him using a very outdated Ashita v2. One of them grants widescan to everyone regardless of job, but it is detectable if the server owner knows how. Another one grants you the ability to spam claim specific monsters via mobID. Zigma probably knows more about this than I do though :)


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:39 am 
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I considered not even justifying this with a response, but since I have a little time to kill I figured why not.

As it's already been pointed out there is clearly no cheating taking place here. The same strategy is being implemented that literally, every HNM LS uses on this server for claiming, especially including the accusatory party making this post. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize there were three windows left and we had three RDM's out there. Why wouldn't one of them Chainspell on the third to last window? What I was looking for was to see what direction the yellow linkshells were running, because every time it pops they make a B line right for it's direction, and the claim wasn't as fast as it appeared in the pervy Mexican guy's video because he was obviously lagging. It was still a pretty nice claim though for sure, but there was a mix of luck and strategy involved. That THF may have even claimed it himself if he was paying attention. He was running straight for it after all. For that matter, the Author Mr. Failed Youtube Star over here may have even claimed if he wasn't so busy making creepy stalker videos and lagging his toaster oven with OBS. I also find it less likely that he swapped hundreds of dat files out in the game as I'm sure he will claim, and instead was using an unauthorized third-party program to modify the appearance of what other PC's were wearing. Just saying.

I'm not sure why you feel that you're somehow entitled to Simurgh because no one else has been bothering to camp it, but my wife, myself, and a LS mate would like a pair of strider boots to actually use, not sell, and I have no intention of stopping camping until we acquire them; no matter how many tears are shed on these forums or elsewhere. (As of today, one down two to go.)

Since we've begun camping I've only claimed twice, on 12/3 it literally popped in front of my face, but I was on my other character so I didn't tab over in time to get it. Some other guy got it, he died and some other LS claimed (I don't pay attention to the scene here so I don't know who; red linkshell iirc). Fat Rich Children then proceeded to say in say "Wow, so lucky, enjoy your claim it won't ever happen again" to them. Why do you suppose that is? Today I missed the claim again because I was too far away, lucky for us another LS mate got it. I was really surprised to see you making this post with these false claims though because I feel pretty confident you wouldn't want the camera on you considering what I've seen, but maybe that was your true intention? To draw some attention away from yourself? Either way, I have a very hard time believing you actually believe that I was cheating, but idk maybe you are that dull-witted.

Aside from the bogus claims of cheating, I want to take a moment to ask anyone bothering to read this to consider the following. The OP posts:
Atreyus wrote:
hi everyone, my name is Gakure, i come from Windurst, Rank 10 and i cheat in a private-toy-server cuz in rl i have a tiny dick :D

This guy was so mad that I claimed a mob on a game in which he has a false sense of entitlement because he plays full time in lieu of working, that he became so outraged that he took the time to follow me for hours, sexually harass me in-game :lol: , make a video, upload it to Youtube, make a post in which he brings the size of my penis into question (My 6 y/o daughter has better material), and then he asked you to believe he doesn't very much care about this "private-toy-server" lol. I'd say if anything you care a little too much señor, and maybe you should take a short break, or at least take a break from competitive camping for a while if it's getting too stressful for you.

Also don't rely on this guy's observational skills too heavily:
Atreyus wrote:
hi everyone, my name is Gakure, i come from Windurst, Rank 10

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Lmao.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:42 am 
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LoveTorque wrote:
You won't get any helpful replies since most who know what is going on dont wanna get caught or wanna be accused of cheating but here is whats going on.
There are apps who tell ya when a mob spawns but in Simurghs case the app will show Simurgh around 20 secs before pop (must be an error on Nasomis client).
Since Chainspell has a duration of 30 sec, you will definitly be in the pop window.

So yeah, best use of that vid will be to ask for staff/nasomi in the chat and scew those guys here, they probably knew whats going on from the start.
So good job for posting this mate and get wrecked in mordion, cheaters.


Pretty sure it's a rule to have one forum account only, and making a second to post in support your argument is a violation of the ToS and may even result in a ban. Hope you remembered to use a VPN.


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