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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:35 pm 
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Don't think you understand wolf. Dunes doesn't lag so Kings don't. Ownms aren't meant to crash, so they don't.


Have you considered maybe a blue Mage and a Sam are just hiding at the exit of aery and crashing the zone that way?



He has fixed the lag in Dunes, that's for sure.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:35 pm 
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You should report major bugs regardless of whether you think nas knows about them or not. That attitude is exactly why nas -doesn't- know things.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:36 pm 
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What makes you think people aren't reporting them and making threads here out of frustration? Just like the auto claim system

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:37 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
You should report major bugs regardless of whether you think nas knows about them or not. That attitude is exactly why nas -doesn't- know things.



Please stop this. It's truly embarrassing and you're smarter than this.

I reported to Nas when someone from Prose was testing it out two months ago, by crashing Yhoator Jungle over and over again. That person still plays today, and the OWNMs still crash the zone.

If you can't figure out how to fix it, that's fine. Just hecking move the two OWNMs in DA and VoS and you'll never heard the complaints again.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:37 pm 
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Just report how it's done. Nas loves to fix crashes.


I refuse to believe that Nas isn't aware that zoning an OWNM crashes the zone. Stop it Nab.

It's 100% custom content placed in one of the three zones that it absolutely can't be placed in (4 if you don't think there should be in one Sky), with a very easy to use (and recently, rather frequently) bug that allows you to cancel out an LS's progress when they finally claim a king. Intentional? Nah, probably not. It was just short sighted in the beginning? Embarrassing to exist still in August 2018? 100%


He has been aware of it forever, he fixed most crash scenarios over a year ago. Even then it wasn't 100% guaranteed to get a crash on zoning. The one scenario that is reproducible that I won't share here - I'm sure all concerned know about it - is mostly a result of not applying invisible and I want to believe it's a mistake - esp. in Aery. No reason to be on OWNM side in VoS if camping turtle.

Back when he was cracking down on those crash scenarios I got jailed for clicking Wall of Banishing in Davoi which somehow crashed the zone. He has reports of all zone crashes and can track what happened.


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Naimah wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Just report how it's done. Nas loves to fix crashes.


I refuse to believe that Nas isn't aware that zoning an OWNM crashes the zone. Stop it Nab.

It's 100% custom content placed in one of the three zones that it absolutely can't be placed in (4 if you don't think there should be in one Sky), with a very easy to use (and recently, rather frequently) bug that allows you to cancel out an LS's progress when they finally claim a king. Intentional? Nah, probably not. It was just short sighted in the beginning? Embarrassing to exist still in August 2018? 100%


He has been aware of it forever, he fixed most crash scenarios over a year ago. Even then it wasn't 100% guaranteed to get a crash on zoning. The one scenario that is reproducible that I won't share here - I'm sure all concerned know about it - is mostly a result of not applying invisible and I want to believe it's a mistake - esp. in Aery. No reason to be on OWNM side in VoS if camping turtle.

Back when he was cracking down on those crash scenarios I got jailed for clicking Wall of Banishing in Davoi which somehow crashed the zone. He has reports of all zone crashes and can track what happened.



It's really hard to believe the same people make the same mistake all the time in DA. Especially if those people make the same mistake just so that more of their LS can get there in time to fight when the mob pops in 15-30 minutes.

I'm sorry, I refuse to believe everyone is actually this stupid and this isn't just everyone trying to be polite.

Move the 100% custom content to literally any zone besides 3-4, and the problem disappears.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:43 pm 
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At this point I don't think he would or he would have done it already. maybe it's too difficult to simply do it, I don't know. But I sincerely hope he changes his mind

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Remember how the claim system was fixed only after everyone kept saying it was broken? And they kept up the stream of information to nas about what was happening?

Do you want your reports from months ago to be the last time nas has heard about this being an issue? Do you really think he just ignores the changing state of the game when it comes to which fixes to push?

It's not the answer you want to hear but it is the answer. Report it to him. Yes, again. Every time it happens. With details if you have them. Multiple linkshells. Multiple people if you all have information.

He's already said he won't move OWNMs. He hasn't said he won't fix crashes. He has priorities, and you should assume that it's low priority, not unfixable, if something isn't fixed right away. Make it clear that it should be a priority, just like the claim system was. Be persistent, detailed if you can, and don't let him forget about it (but don't bother him if you don't have any new information or new instances).

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:48 pm 
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These posts were part of that fixing process until it eventually was streamed.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:49 pm 
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Nothing is wrong with forum posts. But suggesting a different fix isn't the right solution. Nor is your idea of abusing it or assuming nas knows and doesn't care.

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