I'm going to have to ask you to stop making so much sense.

Finally!!!! Thank you guys for at LEAST providing arguments lol. I feel like this is a good thing so they can compete for gil on a much more balanced field instead of steam rolling lvl 10's on LL or 30's on VE etc...
I disagree here, They get a shot every hour for most nms and have access to upwards of th3? (not sure on this server) certain jobs/subs/abilites/kill speed. It's hard for me yes but not them. Whereas, both parties doin bcnms is equal effort imo with the benefit of selling the pc still for high ups. As I've said before though it's like pissin in the wind competing again 3 75's on nms. I find that farming up seals, forming a group with similar interested people (with certain jobs), travel back and forth between fights, as well as being geared well enough to finally get a chance of the drop IS more difficult. Hence making IT the sellable version.
The persistence and competition would still be there on the r/ex version of nm. It doesn't magically remove the demand for the item. Except now us newbs would be competing against a more lvl playing field with the occasional high up needing something as opposed to the small chance of claim over the above mentioned 75's with the sole purpose of controlling the market and making gil. Lets not forget the 75's can still spend their seals on the bcnm as well.

Maybe it was intentionally made this way for a purpose of promoting the teamwork aspect of lowbies like myself ,which is fine, but that wasn't the argument that was presented to me. However, after more thought, I don't see why both couldn't be the sellable version.

Off topic, Shagett do you watch Phonecats cause your name is familiar lol?

It really, really does.

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As a person who is like 0/12 on VE drops this week alone, I say keep them Non /ex. I’ve received help from many well known hunters (yes they are hunters, not campers) and they are great people. As a team, they spend the time to learn and camp the mobs like no one else. They have my respect and help any time they’d need it.

Seriously, they are awesome people and deserve every NM they camp because they put in the time. Just put in the time yourself and it’ll eventually happen. I mean 0/8 this weekend alone, it sucks but I’m not going to give up so easily!!!

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NMs won't be dropping Rare/Ex anytime soon. I wouldn't make this your hill to die on.

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Never said that.
This isnt about any particular player so pls leave names out. This is irrelevant to my suggestion of the switch to r/ex as the outcome would be the same in either scenario. You're missing my point. I'm merely shifting the dynamic of interaction at low lvl nms. This statement is correct. What are you even talking about? I feel you totally missed the heart of this debate.....by a mile......

Furthermore, if you are in some way bothered by my opinion because it feels directed towards you then forgive me. I am presenting an idea to switch the drops because it is more newb focused. Pls just stop lol.

I can already tell this is the new "remove dualboxing" thread.

Good luck.

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The fact that a NM like VE pops every damn hour like clockwork is a problem.

You can't say that you like NM competition when there really isn't any. It just becomes who has more people to cover the spawn points, because people already know it's going to spawn, and roughly where.

If you're lucky enough to the standing close when it pops, then great!

If NMs were actually random spawns during their timestamp there would already be far less people standing around. Since as other people have said, NM is only profitable up to a point. When you lower the spawn time and make it more random, it becomes less profitable to camp 24/7, sure some people will still do it, and the price would probably make it go up because now they are not raining from the sky every hour.

I don't like camping things like VE since it really isn't camping random pops anymore. You don't even have a chance against that 6 man team that is camping it all damn day.

When I did camp it on retail, it was the R/EX version, and it was still fun as hell competing against the other people who were there for it. Then, when I was done, they still had their chance. I like it better personally. I felt it was a little more even matched for camping, but still was fair that everyone who wanted to camp it would have a decent chance of getting it eventually. Right now, you have people who monopolize these NMs, since they do it 100% of the time, which frankly isn't competitive or fun for us "filthy casuals". I could buy several pins if i wanted, but that isnt the point. It is fun to camp things like this, but something isnt right about current setup, with the 1hr exact spawns, and everyone there anyway. Yet people still scream "retail accurate" but it isnt at all. (not to mention the placeholder holding...)

If people want that kind of competition, they can go join endgame when they hit 75 lol.

6 man team? what?

Aioko and Rekuza make up more of the claims than any other campers and they're certainly not camping with a 6 man team.

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No, that would be two. I been there a few times with a 6 man team camping every corner. Not every time, but i suppose thats the problem with speaking in general terms. There was a whole lot more to my viewpoint than that.