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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:50 pm 
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Choosing to avoid the headache of dealing with a bunch of assholes that hide being an agreement formed by people not present doesn't mean you can't speak for the rule lol.

Also: to be clear.. I don't particularly care if you make new rules. I was just pointing out that more and more groups are going to realize the rules are no longer feasible for everyone to get their runs in, and will eventually realize that they don't really need to follow them.

Whether that means ya'll come up with new fake rules or not, I don't think many people give a shit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:52 pm 
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I wouldn't believe anything TS is saying about DB. They are going to say anything to make them look bad. DB might have 3-4 groups but that doesn't mean they're the only ones. Everyone else in TS uses the line except deft and aero.


This is a wild exaggeration. DB went from being a new to end game shell that had Dynamis City events and invited the whole server to get the win, to a MASSIVE end game shell that camps kings and has an extremely large dynamis bubu showing. While the leadership of shell have generally been good natured, wanting to have fun types; it's impossible for them not to have recruited a few toxic drama queens that fly under their radar. Just like any other end game shell.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:53 pm 
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also.. "most people in Bubu" follow the rules, because at this point.. most people in Bubu are all in one LS, and they're assholes about it to others.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:54 pm 
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Choosing to avoid the headache of dealing with a bunch of assholes that hide being an agreement formed by people not present doesn't mean you can't speak for the rule lol.



It's not an actual rule. They will just be known as assholes. plain and simple.

and people who can't make it in early to use their lockout should know how lines work. You want to make sure you get in bubu that day? Go get in line earlier. I think everyone knows that. Next time someone wants that new iphone, they should just be able to cut in line of the people who's been standing there for day.

Bubu isn't the only zone you can farm. The world isn't going to revolve around less fortunate people.

edit ;; bubu is ran by about 6 shells. It just so happens 5 pm to midnight EST is DB. Db doesn't run the other hours and they all follow the line. Not really an argument that same LS respect each other. Actually EST is prime time and there's more than DB who run bubu at those times and nobody skips each other. You will see 1-3 other LS's get in line and nobody skips them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:57 pm 
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nebulacloud wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Choosing to avoid the headache of dealing with a bunch of assholes that hide being an agreement formed by people not present doesn't mean you can't speak for the rule lol.



It's not an actual rule. They will just be known as assholes. plain and simple.

and people who can't make it in early to use their lockout should know how lines work. You want to make sure you get in bubu that day? Go get in line earlier. I think everyone knows that. Next time someone wants that new iphone, they should just be able to cut in line of the people who's been standing there for day.

Bubu isn't the only zone you can farm. The world isn't going to revolve around less fortunate people.


I’ll ignore the fact that you consider people that don’t live on a video game “less fortune” for a second, and that you also obviously aren’t done posting.. to point out, once again, that the idea of a line was created when it was to facilitate everyone involved getting a full run. That is no longer mathematically possible, and is instead abused by a few groups all with the same LS on to ensure that they’re more likely to get their runs in.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:02 pm 
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Like I said have a line, don’t have a line. It doesn’t really matter to me. If someone tries to use the concept of a line to override common sense and reason about whose turn is next, I’ll care. You can call it whatever you want, as long as you realize who is next.

Unless you’d like to join my run, I’m not really interested in your opinion of the number of people/jobs I have with me. That’s all.

To use your analogy, I’m not going down the line of people waiting for an iPhone having them all log into their Online Banking app to figure out whose really here for the right reasons that I’ve created in my head.

“Oh... I’m sorry. You can’t really afford this phone in my opinion. Doesn’t leave you with enough emergency savings, I’ll just not count you.” Gtfo here

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:07 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Like I said have a line, don’t have a line. It doesn’t really matter to me. If someone tries to use the concept of a line to override common sense and reason about whose turn is next, I’ll care. You can call it whatever you want, as long as you realize who is next.

Unless you’d like to join my run, I’m not really interested in your opinion of the number of people/jobs I have with me. That’s all.

To use your analogy, I’m not going down the line of people waiting for an iPhone having them all log into their Online Banking app to figure out whose really here for the right reasons that I’ve created in my head.

“Oh... I’m sorry. You can’t really afford this phone in my opinion. Doesn’t leave you with enough emergency savings, I’ll just not count you.” Gtfo here


Guess what? You're in the minority. Go to bubu and get in line with few dds and healer. See if others will agree with you and have no issues with it. Then come back and tell me the same thing.

You do whatever you like. People are free to their own opinions and they will have one about you too based on your actions.

I have nothing against you at all personally. Just dont agree with ya.

Wait, someone using all their money to buy a phone, that doesn't leave them with emergency savings ?? lol

They have enough to buy the phone and they're in line. That's the requirements to get in line.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:08 pm 
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nebulacloud wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Like I said have a line, don’t have a line. It doesn’t really matter to me. If someone tries to use the concept of a line to override common sense and reason about whose turn is next, I’ll care. You can call it whatever you want, as long as you realize who is next.

Unless you’d like to join my run, I’m not really interested in your opinion of the number of people/jobs I have with me. That’s all.

To use your analogy, I’m not going down the line of people waiting for an iPhone having them all log into their Online Banking app to figure out whose really here for the right reasons that I’ve created in my head.

“Oh... I’m sorry. You can’t really afford this phone in my opinion. Doesn’t leave you with enough emergency savings, I’ll just not count you.” Gtfo here


Guess what? You're in the minority. Go to bubu and get in line with few dds and healer. See if others will agree with you and have no issues with it. Then come back and tell me the same thing.



Please point me to where I mistakenly lead you to believe this was something that concerned me? I’d like to ensure the misunderstanding doesn’t happen again.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:10 pm 
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But yes, I’m sure all of DraconicBallad do not agree with me lol.

Right for an iPhone the requirements are they have to get in line. For Bubu you want the requirements for them to have to get in line, and also on specific jobs and amounts that you’ve deemed worthy to be valid for the zone... which is ridiculous.

I never said someone shouldn’t try to follow a line. You seemed to have missed the more important part of your own shitty analogy.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:15 pm 
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Dynamis Bubu isn’t a zone created for 2-3 blm, a thf, and a rdm to enter. If I want to use my spot in the line to enter with the things I want to participate in the dynamis zone with, I fail to see why that concerns someone else.

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