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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:22 pm 
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Nas doesn't do 'alternative' fixes (the only bug he tried doing those for is autohp). Of course it's possible, but he doesn't do that.


And OWNMs... and warping across the bridge in Port Bastok... and who can think of some others?

OWNMs are something nas likes in general and isn't just a 'fix' for BCNMs, as OWNMs aren't intended to be removed at any point.

The port bastok bridge warp literally would otherwise make people stuck there forever. Literally not able to play the game ever again. Compare that to you wanting some stats on a belt. Not saying it isn't important, but nas isn't going to treat those the same way.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:41 pm 
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The port bastok bridge warp literally would otherwise make people stuck there forever. Literally not able to play the game ever again.


How so? you can still run around and get there without using the bridge, just takes alot longer. It is what it is, it's an "alternative fix" doesn't matter how much of an impact it has.
I'd rather have him give us NPC's for broken quests he doesn't have a fix for, or i'd even he happy if he would just tell us that he's never going to fix them, instead of making us hope and wait for years.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:53 pm 
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you can still run around and get there without using the bridge

Now imagine you are on the side of the bridge with the MH, and without the MH exit quest done.

note: pretty sure nas also enables exiting to any MH from the port bastok MH specifically because of this.

If those weren't a thing, then you're stuck. Nas doesn't like people being stuck.

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I'd rather have him give us NPC's for broken quests he doesn't have a fix for, or i'd even he happy if he would just tell us that he's never going to fix them, instead of making us hope and wait for years.

Unfortunately, what -you- want isn't relevant to what nas does. Nas does what he wants to do. I'm not trying to convince you that what you want is wrong. Just that it doesn't necessarily matter.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:05 pm 
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I've heard today that Nas has decided to widen even more the gap between the oldest players - those that got almost literally FREE relics - and the newer ones by gimping Dyna-Bubu farm one way or the other. Is that true ?

If true it's hecking outrageous that having spent a LOT of time leveling, gearing and meriting the right job, finding the right people to build a group, work around our schedules to find a time slot in Dyna-Bubu and farm daily (or close to) for monthS isn't gonna cut it anymore whereas some players merely had to run a hecking single Dyna-Jeuno back in the day to get a relic worth of currencies.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:20 pm 
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Some players are still around from when some stuff happened to be easier (read: broken in a way that benefited players), but vast swathes of the game were broken in the opposite direction back then too.

For example, droprates were accidentally too high on some items, that included currency. Treasure Hunter was working incorrectly as well, giving it a greater effect. The number of people who significantly benefited from these things has always been small (you'd have had to be doing Dyna several years ago), and less and less of those players are still around. Also, it sounds like it has been exaggerated quite a bit.. 1 dyna run wasn't going to get you a relic, ever.

There has never been "intentional" widening of the gap, just fixes to stuff that happened to benefit people. You benefit from things now that future players may not benefit from as well - but that doesn't make what you do now illegitimate or outrageous, I think. For example, in the last maint, the choco license quest was finally fixed to old retail standards - you wait 1 game day between feeding the chocobo, instead of 1 minute.

Consider that we have daily dynamis lockouts now, something which nas could change at any time - you benefit from that now, but future players may not.

Don't fall for the sensationalism from players who are frustrated that things are more difficult now than they used to be. The server was not a fun time back then with zones constantly crashing, no one to play with (we're talking 1/10th the population) and although we'd all like for everything to have been just the same back then as it is now, things change, and will continue to change.

The latest "change" to "dynamis" (really just a bug with the claim system - which will be fixed THIS WEEK according to nas on facebook), is NOT intentional. Nas isn't trying to widen the gap. If anything, he tries very hard to affect higher level, affluent players more harshly than newer players trying to find their place (you missed it but last year around this time, nas tried to roll back ALL RELIC PROGRESS by 1 step for the entire playerbase.. and a few years ago nas removed 90% of ALL GIL in the economy.. etc).

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:27 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Some players are still around from when some stuff happened to be easier (read: broken in a way that benefited players), but vast swathes of the game were broken in the opposite direction back then too.

For example, droprates were accidentally too high on some items, that included currency. Treasure Hunter was working incorrectly as well, giving it a greater effect. The number of people who significantly benefited from these things has always been small (you'd have had to be doing Dyna several years ago), and less and less of those players are still around. Also, it sounds like it has been exaggerated quite a bit.. 1 dyna run wasn't going to get you a relic, ever.

There has never been "intentional" widening of the gap, just fixes to stuff that happened to benefit people. You benefit from things now that future players may not benefit from as well - but that doesn't make what you do now illegitimate or outrageous, I think. For example, in the last maint, the choco license quest was finally fixed to old retail standards - you wait 1 game day between feeding the chocobo, instead of 1 minute.

Consider that we have daily dynamis lockouts now, something which nas could change at any time - you benefit from that now, but future players may not.

Don't fall for the sensationalism from players who are frustrated that things are more difficult now than they used to be. The server was not a fun time back then with zones constantly crashing, no one to play with (we're talking 1/10th the population) and although we'd all like for everything to have been just the same back then as it is now, things change, and will continue to change.

The latest "change" to "dynamis" (really just a bug with the claim system - which will be fixed THIS WEEK according to nas on facebook), is NOT intentional. Nas isn't trying to widen the gap. If anything, he tries very hard to affect higher level, affluent players more harshly than newer players trying to find their place (you missed it but last year around this time, nas tried to roll back ALL RELIC PROGRESS by 1 step for the entire playerbase.. and a few years ago nas removed 90% of ALL GIL in the economy.. etc).


Okay.

Is Dyna-Bubu farm going to get nerfed one way or the other soon, yes or no ?

Also loled at the "It might be harder to get a relic now but hey, the god damn chocobo licence is going to be super slightly more annoying to get now now than what it was when you got it, so hey, there is that!" part.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:30 pm 
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Okay.

Is Dyna-Bubu farm going to get nerfed one way or the other soon, yes or no ?

No one could know the answer to this question. I think no, though.

Why you're asking this question is important - you may have people trying to say that it's been nerfed (because they think the claim change which caused unclaimed mobs to not drop anything was intentional), and this getting mixed up into people thinking it will get nerfed, etc etc.

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Also loled at the "It might be harder to get a relic now but hey, the god damn chocobo licence is going to be super slightly more annoying to get now now than what it was when you got it, so hey, there is that!" part.

Think you may have misunderstood. Nas made a change to make things accurate, not to make them harder. That applies to the relic stuff too. In that same thought, you missed that you benefit from daily dyna lockouts now. There is no guarantee that you will be able to enter dyna daily in the future.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:37 pm 
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It appears that this update is focusing on fixes. I didnt know Dynamis was being fixed too. Does this mean we might get a fix for the BLU AF feet? That last update fixed the AF head but broke the feet at the same time. Do we know if the BLU AF feet are one of the fixes being worked on? Or possibly I should ask do we know what all is being worked on?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:40 pm 
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"dynamis" isn't being fixed as it didn't break in the patch. Mobs that are unclaimed not dropping items/giving exp for the party that last claimed them is part of what is being fixed.

There is no word about BLU AF feet at all in nas's fb post, which has been shown here several times now...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:42 pm 
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Jacky wrote:
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The port bastok bridge warp literally would otherwise make people stuck there forever. Literally not able to play the game ever again.


How so? you can still run around and get there without using the bridge, just takes alot longer. It is what it is, it's an "alternative fix" doesn't matter how much of an impact it has.
I'd rather have him give us NPC's for broken quests he doesn't have a fix for, or i'd even he happy if he would just tell us that he's never going to fix them, instead of making us hope and wait for years.


New players can’t get to the flower quest girl without the warp, ne?


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