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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:20 pm 
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its ok Yas. dont take its personally everyone here is trying to help/give u good advise we are a "great" community with all the nice(right) ppl LMAO.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:22 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:33 pm 
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Skitles wrote:
Thank you nas for your work so far on keeping the cheaters in check, whether fishing or multi logins.

i have played with them for a long time on my character rathood, i just found out about what happened to them iv never saw anything wrong while i grouped with them, i dont see how this is fair to be honest whats the cheat again trying to connect to the game through vpn? If i had the same issue i would have VPn'd to play the game. Unless there i something else that i don't understand.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:42 pm 
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Skitles wrote:
curaya wrote:
Skitles wrote:
Your circle of friends cheated.



I feel like someone has to post all of the things TopScrape has done by this logic.

Dimitri?
Baldr?
Third party plugins?
Scraping data?


I'm sure you could add some more.
Don't be a hypocrite.


The key word there is "FRIENDS". Dimitrii was not in TS when he was banned. Learn your facts.
Baldr was, but baldr was 1 person in TS, and all of TS isnt using the same IP. Plus no one knows why Baldr was banned. We wish we did. Might have a small idea, but nothing is confirmed. The fact that No one knows this, proves that it was an isolated incident and not a whole grp of people cheating that got 60+ banned.... not even the same situations.


If it's any hint, Baldr was banned for the same reason as Johnsniper, Tarutaru/Decimus, Clayborn, and a number of others. If you know it, don't try it.
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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:49 pm 
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naschat?


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:01 pm 
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rashid232 wrote:
Skitles wrote:
Thank you nas for your work so far on keeping the cheaters in check, whether fishing or multi logins.

i have played with them for a long time on my character rathood, i just found out about what happened to them iv never saw anything wrong while i grouped with them, i dont see how this is fair to be honest whats the cheat again trying to connect to the game through vpn? If i had the same issue i would have VPn'd to play the game. Unless there i something else that i don't understand.


28 pages later some people still don't understand the issue. Let's break it down.

1. Many Chinese players are using the same VPN to connect to Nasomi's server. From Nasomi's perspective, all of these accounts appear to be coming from one Public IP. In other words, from one location. It's not against his rules to play multiple accounts from one location (IP). However it is against his rules to cheat. Therein lies the rub.

2. Some of these accounts are cheating. Not all. Nasomi is not saying all of them nor is he saying how many. The number is irrelevant.

3. Nasomi can only ban accounts and ban IP addresses. That is to say, he can stop an IP address (or range of addresses if need be) from connecting to his server. It's a bit like blocking a spam caller on your phone, same idea.

4. If anyone is cheating from a single IP he has no choice but to ban the IP regardless of how many people are playing from it. This is important. He can also ban accounts, but if those accounts are going to connect from the same IP, banning the IP has the same result with the negative effect of banning all the legitimate players too.

5. He has two choices: let all these Chinese players play which will keep the cheaters in, or ban the single IP they play from which bans everyone.

So you can see, he cannot make a decision here that will make everyone happy. Since his solution falls under his set of rules and he does not like cheaters, he chooses to ban the single IP. Then somehow the thread dissolves into people who aren't playing from one IP throwing shit at each other which is both not-on-topic and also pointless to the issue.

It's also entirely pointless for the Chinese players to post screenshots of who they are since it doesn't really prove anything and all they are doing is putting their private information on the internet, though I admire their resolve and love for the game. I really do feel for the legit players among them and it's probably only a couple that are cheating, but thems the rules and they exist for reasons.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:05 pm 
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rashid232 wrote:
Skitles wrote:
Thank you nas for your work so far on keeping the cheaters in check, whether fishing or multi logins.

i have played with them for a long time on my character rathood, i just found out about what happened to them iv never saw anything wrong while i grouped with them, i dont see how this is fair to be honest whats the cheat again trying to connect to the game through vpn? If i had the same issue i would have VPn'd to play the game. Unless there i something else that i don't understand.


Some of them cheated, obvious one is related to dynamis resets or double dipping with a particular zone, could be more with the recent sighting of an unobtainable item.

Nas banned all linked to the IP of the cheaters, apparently all linked because of the VPN.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:24 pm 
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Naimah wrote:
could be more with the recent sighting of an unobtainable item.


Still wondering where this came from:

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:46 pm 
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Mebbe they learned how to swim?

It’d be nice to get a (real) shot at the higher tier ZNMs.. as slow as I level maybe they’ll all working by the time I get 75-ish again :)

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese Players
PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:53 pm 
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Gollum wrote:
Mebbe they learned how to swim?

It’d be nice to get a (real) shot at the higher tier ZNMs.. as slow as I level maybe they’ll all working by the time I get 75-ish again :)


if we give Nasomi the time to code and never bug him with these issue's we might get there.

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