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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:42 pm 
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Fidelcashflow wrote:
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Don't be mean, he might get sad and let you know you are being mean. Which is rude... Or something... Nevermind, carry on.

Also I agree this guy needs to shut up. Go be a snowflake and be the peoples champion that doesn't use NIN or /NIN. See how well that works for you.


I have nin but I would prefer Nasomi look at the issue, there is enough evidence to say this issue may be Nasomi specific and not a proper replication of the game of the past.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:47 pm 
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Searain wrote:
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Why? They are all legitimate reasons, especially for my rng. Anyways, your idea will break the game by making it too easy for my rdm and blm.


Current Nasomi however gives an almost pitch perfect rendition of how it was playing XI on official servers during the CoP/ToAU golden age. If you weren't around back then, do yourself and everyone else a favor and shut the hell up.


I was around back then in fact I was around up to November of 2005.

I played as a WHM and mostly with the Japanese players. The tanks of choice were PLD. Ninja was just beginning to take over but not in a big way, you only subbed ninja rarely.

I personally preferred a PLD tank because Ninja's hate was too slow to build. I loved the Japanese, they didn't insult people.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:55 pm 
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lockecole777 wrote:
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Re-enable RNG while you're there please Nas


sounds like Nas is the true troll around here if he forces all these issues and requires everyone to use ninja.


I also don't understand your blink item solution. I fail to see how adding the brokenness of blinking ONTOP of every other subjob would fix anything. If anything it would just trivialize all of the already trivial content.


That would be my point /NIN everything trivializes content. You just don't see it. I see it through 2005 eyes as i have never played on retail since or Nasomi until now.

The solution i truly favour is a Nin only getting Utsusemi: Ni, like every other job breaking power in the game. It's not even consistent with itself in this way. Improve Blink spell to 100% and with the same casting time as utsusemi and put it at level 38 so you can have your rdm tanks if you want them.

Remove Utsusemi: Ichi completely.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:04 pm 
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I completely agree with OP. He should eradicate ninja and enable DNC. We all know things got way harder when everyone was /dnc.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:29 pm 
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I remember reading in the Brady guide that ninja does not make a good subjob. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:16 pm 
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Wow, this is by far the dumbest thread based on actual game mechanics I have seen in a year or two. Bravo OP.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:22 pm 
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Maseki wrote:
I completely agree with OP. He should eradicate ninja and enable DNC. We all know things got way harder when everyone was /dnc.


Just to comment on how backwards things get, your tag line says respect is earned. Which is an idiom, really. Lets bring understanding to the phrase.

1. most respect for those in positions of power was not earned it was granted as a birthright of class
2. basic human respect is a right as soon as you start saying it should be earned you dehumanize everyone.
3. You place yourself above everyone else in using this idiom. As if your respect is something to value.
4. The proper statement should be, Give respect to get respect.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:17 pm 
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deathmolor wrote:

Well it is nice to see people uncovering the root problem. As for retail, I remember whm to be insanely challenging and people planned removing themselves from AOE range. I see people in Nasomi just standing their not actually positioning themselves. So it seems that everyone having Nin has changed the way people play for the worse. It's lazy. A simple fix would be to allow only a level 38 Utsusemi: Ni.


You played with bad players on retail.

/nin was used just as much there by good players as it is here

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:23 pm 
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I definitely don't agree with OP. I get the argument but the reality is, this is an era server and the era was subbing ninja on most DDs in most situations for a long time. So Nasomi's Ninja and /NIN is consistent with what this server tries to be. Nasomi wasn't made to improve upon the era but to present it as it was, warts and all.

That's said, y'all are pretty toxic and I don't think OP deserves the kind of treatment he got in this thread. It's perfectly acceptable to disagree with someone without ending up trading insults.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:38 pm 
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deathmolor wrote:
Maseki wrote:
I completely agree with OP. He should eradicate ninja and enable DNC. We all know things got way harder when everyone was /dnc.


Just to comment on how backwards things get, your tag line says respect is earned. Which is an idiom, really. Lets bring understanding to the phrase.

1. most respect for those in positions of power was not earned it was granted as a birthright of class
2. basic human respect is a right as soon as you start saying it should be earned you dehumanize everyone.
3. You place yourself above everyone else in using this idiom. As if your respect is something to value.
4. The proper statement should be, Give respect to get respect.


I'll take Analogies for $1,000 Alex.

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