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Tororu
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:16 am 
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Hnms should be changed to rare ex spawn pops. The game is ruined progression wise for some peoples jobs cause they dont play at 4 in the morning lol
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Governor
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:48 am 
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Tororu wrote:
Hnms should be changed to rare ex spawn pops. The game is ruined progression wise for some peoples jobs cause they dont play at 4 in the morning lol


I have to agree with Tororu. If forced spawn items were put on the KS99 mobs then there would be a lot less drama^^. I haven't needed a ground king drop in over a year but I would love to fight them without having to be up early in the morning because some people force a specific time.

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Nabutso
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:00 am 
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No, we're here to avoid forced spawns.

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Baldr
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:19 am 
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I agree with Nabutso, though I can emphasize with the forced spawn argument.

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Chakan
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:24 am 
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Forced spawns would take quite a bit away from the experience.
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Scaggles
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:27 am 
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Sapajoee wrote:
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Until the way HNMs are claimed changes, this will continue be a problem.


What does this even mean??? lmao


It means until the way HNMs are claimed is changed, low-level/new characters being brought in to claim will continue to be a problem because it seems to be the most effective way to claim.
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Governor
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:38 am 
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Scaggles wrote:
Sapajoee wrote:
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Until the way HNMs are claimed changes, this will continue be a problem.


What does this even mean??? lmao


It means until the way HNMs are claimed is changed, low-level/new characters being brought in to claim will continue to be a problem because it seems to be the most effective way to claim.


Will this really continue to be a problem? Multiple characters were jailed today because of this. I guess continue at your own risk of character loss.

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Scaggles
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:02 am 
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Governor wrote:
Will this really continue to be a problem? Multiple characters were jailed today because of this. I guess continue at your own risk of character loss.

Will players continue to bring low-level characters? Absolutely, why wouldn't they when the consensus seems to be that they have an alleged advantage when claiming? The characters can't be mules, they have to be main characters linked to an account. Unless the method in which HNMs claim to a player upon spawning if any are in range isn't affected by variables such as level or character age, I think it will continue to be a factor. If we can't have fair claims the intended way or by way of auto-claims, I'm in favor of forced spawns. I don't care if it takes away from the experience, that experience becomes frustrating too often due to the above and other factors such as zone crashes and lag.
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Governor
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:23 am 
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Scaggles wrote:
Governor wrote:
Will this really continue to be a problem? Multiple characters were jailed today because of this. I guess continue at your own risk of character loss.

Will players continue to bring low-level characters? Absolutely, why wouldn't they when the consensus seems to be that they have an alleged advantage when claiming? The characters can't be mules, they have to be main characters linked to an account. Unless the method in which HNMs claim to a player upon spawning if any are in range isn't affected by variables such as level or character age, I think it will continue to be a factor. If we can't have fair claims the intended way or by way of auto-claims, I'm in favor of forced spawns. I don't care if it takes away from the experience, that experience becomes frustrating too often due to the above and other factors such as zone crashes and lag.


This is complete speculation with no objective data to support it.

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Scaggles
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:40 am 
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Governor wrote:
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Governor wrote:
Will this really continue to be a problem? Multiple characters were jailed today because of this. I guess continue at your own risk of character loss.

Will players continue to bring low-level characters? Absolutely, why wouldn't they when the consensus seems to be that they have an alleged advantage when claiming? The characters can't be mules, they have to be main characters linked to an account. Unless the method in which HNMs claim to a player upon spawning if any are in range isn't affected by variables such as level or character age, I think it will continue to be a factor. If we can't have fair claims the intended way or by way of auto-claims, I'm in favor of forced spawns. I don't care if it takes away from the experience, that experience becomes frustrating too often due to the above and other factors such as zone crashes and lag.


This is complete speculation with no objective data to support it.

Which is why I used the phrase "alleged advantage" and didn't state it as an objective fact.

How about a hard 75-only rule at HNM camps?
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