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Avellion
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 10:04 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Aeroo wrote:
There's no such thing as 0% darksday.

Meant for comparison purposes. You want me to say 2% each time and have everyone be confused?


Yes. I'm already confused, so a little more doesn't hurt.
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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:46 am 
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Nabutso wrote:
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I think the bolded part is causing the most grief. New moons only come around roughly every 3.5 days. Then factor in real life and it's more like once every 10 days that it falls into your playtime. Especially if you're waiting for Darksday or the strong day for your synth.

If we want the rates to be like retail let's just scrap the moon/day/direction completely and stick to the simple HQ tiers based solely on your crafting skill level.


Could you explain why the bolded part is true? How are those variables necessary?

You reach 10% HQ rate on tier 1 HQ synths on 0% new moon darksday now.

Previously, 10% HQ was reached at 50% moon neutral day.

Previously, you could reach 16% on 0% new moon darksday.

In retail, crafting direction, day, moon did not exist.

In retail, 10% HQ for tier 1 HQ synths was was was recorded.

So here, you now need to craft on 0% new moon darksday to reach retail rates.

Previously, you could craft on 0% new moon darksday to get better than retail rates.


Where do you get that from?
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Nabutso
 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 12:28 pm 
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Tibby wrote:
Where do you get that from?


Over 500 crafts on those conditions after the update.

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:41 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
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Where do you get that from?


Over 500 crafts on those conditions after the update.


You've done 500 crafts during each moon phase to verify these numbers? Cause 500 divided out throughout the moon cycle is tiny sample sizing.

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:50 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
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Where do you get that from?


Over 500 crafts on those conditions after the update.


You've done 500 crafts during each moon phase to verify these numbers? Cause 500 divided out throughout the moon cycle is tiny sample sizing.

No.. but I've done over 400 for sure doing New Moons with good day conditions and at least 200 on near Full moons without a care for day conditions. On the same synth.

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:21 am 
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I've been tracking my synths lately to try to get some idea of exactly what's going on.

Here are the prelim results. All synths done facing East. I'm crafting Fruit Parfait.

2% Dark: 6/104; 5.77%
10% Ice: 9/72; 12.5%
12% Wind: 1/45; 2.22%
14% Water: 2/28; 7.14%
17% Earth: 4/26; 15.38%

69% Lightning: 0/8; 0%
71% Light: 7/83; 8.43%

Adding up the 2 favorable HQ synth days (2% Dark and 10% Ice here), we have 15/176; 8.52%

Neither the 2% Dark, 17% Earth, nor 71% Light make much sense.

I'm beginning to think that Moon, Day, and Direction may no longer play a part in synths. Considering that most people try to HQ on New Moon Darksday/weakday, it makes sense that lower HQ rates may have been observed due to the removal of that system.

This is only a sample size of 366, so it isn't very accurate yet. I'll continue to keep track and report total results.

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:16 pm 
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This change stinks. Crafting used to be fun. That's been gutted out completely for me now.

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 2:19 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:

I'm beginning to think that Moon, Day, and Direction may no longer play a part in synths. Considering that most people try to HQ on New Moon Darksday/weakday, it makes sense that lower HQ rates may have been observed due to the removal of that system.



isn't that what we want? a system that is just based off your level?

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
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Wolffhardt wrote:
Nabutso wrote:

I'm beginning to think that Moon, Day, and Direction may no longer play a part in synths. Considering that most people try to HQ on New Moon Darksday/weakday, it makes sense that lower HQ rates may have been observed due to the removal of that system.



isn't that what we want? a system that is just based off your level?

Yes. Anything else is total trash. "Fun" or not, it's wrong to have anything else.

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 Post subject: Re: Crafting Currently
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:01 pm 
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So if we use the assumption that its been murdered back to just skill (+support/furniture) are we still aiming for 5 difficulty for max skillups taking stuff 1-100? Closer to old retail paths? Same as before just HQ changed? Spin to win and synth on any day under any moon?
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