lazychocobo wrote:
I'd never go to retail again, I just don't get the feelz from it like I used to. As far as a legacy server goes, only if I could transfer my nasomi save (yea right) and only if it was free (big yea right) as subscription models went away for a reason and $120 a year for a game from 2002 that could run on my electric toothbrush is too much.
Maybe I'm weird, but I'm totally fine with a subscription fee for an MMO, no matter what age it is.
The way I see it, I pay £9.99 or whatever a month for it. If I didn't pay that £9.99, I'd spend that £9.99 on something else.
For around the same price (Barring travel fees, which makes it almost £17 for me.. Lol) I can buy a movie ticket.
That one movie ticket lets me see one movie, on average.. About 1.5hrs of enjoyment.
£9.99 into sub mmo of my choice gives me as much play time as I see fit to dedicate to the MMO during that month, which in my view - if I play atleast 5 hours a week, is worth my money.
I used to see it as a sub = I need to dedicate to that game to get my money's worth, but putting it into perspective of what that £9.99 COULD have done for me... Eh? :p
OmegaFFXI wrote:
Subscription models are still there, and doing well. FFXIV and WoW are both sub based, as well as FFXI and EQ still. I think FFXIV and WoW are the best way to do it, a sub fee with a cash shop that is just purely cosmetic stuff like mounts, emotes, and equipment graphics. I think this is one of the mistakes that was made with FFXI. They could have made a lot more money by selling stuff like that. Even though I'd prefer everything to be obtainable in-game, I understand the reality of requiring profits to maintain and sustain.
I can't stand the Sub+Cash shop model. Especially in FFXIV's case. It has such a robust crafting system, as well as a fair amount of almost rewardless content. Most of that cash shop bollocks could have been added as in game rewards.. You know, as an incentive for me to actually play the game. A lot of people defend the cash shop sub mentality with "It's just cosmetics", but earning cosmetics through in game actions is great. And when they're rapid firing outfits and mounts on the cash shop like Squeenix had been recently it rubs me the wrong way.
Now don't get me wrong, the best cash shop is a cosmetic cash shop, but a cosmetic cash shop that's as expensive as WoW/FFXIV's, with a sub? Erk. :p And don't even get me STARTED on that bullshit story skip potion.
People who complain about subscription fees in 2018 are either very poor at managing finances or just need a reality check. Just like people who complain about $60 games having minor bugs or issues (as long as they aren't a total shitshow).
It costs me $180 to buy a week's worth of groceries for my wife and I. It costs $30 to go to the movies, or $20 minimum to go out to dinner pretty much anywhere but McDonald's. My damn cat litter is more expensive than a FFXI monthly subscription. If you want to go to any concert, it's $60 minimum for 3-4 hours of enjoyment, and that's if you sit in the nosebleeds. Tickets to your local amusement park (Six Flags, Busch Gardens, Disney World) are $50-100 a pop.
With the amount of enjoyment and investment we get out of video games they are nothing if not effective uses of currency for entertainment.
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