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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:11 pm 
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I implore OP to go start his own server and absolutely ban dual boxing.

Nasomi is clearly not for him.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:39 pm 
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NM hunting - Dual boxing 2 characters on an NM like Lizzy or Spiny Spipi increases your cover by over double. One person being able to see two completely different spots of an NM's spawn area and the ability for both to patrol 2 large spots gives an unfair advantage over the solo player hunting the NM, it's similar to a teleport hack in effectiveness. One player should be able to do or cover what one player is designed to do, that's classic FFXI and in this state it's unfair. It cannot be argued that using 2 keyboards or alt tabbing does NOT give you an advantage, This is untrue.
This diminishes the experience of others and gives an unfair advantage with minimal work. It hurts the other players around you.


The people that have had the most success hunting NMs are not using two characters to cover a larger portion of the spawn area. at least in any real sense. Some might keep another character around to mule an item if necessary, but trying to control two characters to claim the NM would be stupid.

VE is an easy example, and a very visible one - if you ever watched Rekuza when he was streaming his VE camping, yeah, he had an alt out there. But out of hundreds of VE claims, basically all of them came on his THF.

There are a million other tricks you can learn about how NMs work on Nasomi that give you an exponentially better chance at claiming NMs than dual boxing.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:40 pm 
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Azurewrath wrote:
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HNM hunting - Same as above, but the stakes are even higher. Nobody wants to get outclaimed on a competitive pop by a guywho's main character is so far from the HNM that they can't even see it. That's silly and nobody can agree that's fair. .


gl claiming an HNM that's camped with having enough time to tab and switch to your other char by the time you realize it's at your other char :lol:


I can tap tab on 2 keyboards and claim just as fast as I can on a single one, there's no alt tabbing required

Who in the world do you think is using two computers to dual box lol

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:41 pm 
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I honestly have a hard time thinking of a non-autoclaim NM that would actually be easier if I had an alt.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:46 pm 
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I honestly have a hard time thinking of a non-autoclaim NM that would actually be easier if I had an alt.

I'm sure we've all seen plenty of people try it.

And I'm sure we all generally take it to mean we're going to have an easy time competing against them, because while they're nervously fumbling around trying to figure out which character is closer and which window has focus, I've long since hit flee and claimed the NM.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:54 pm 
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cthalupa wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
I honestly have a hard time thinking of a non-autoclaim NM that would actually be easier if I had an alt.

I'm sure we've all seen plenty of people try it.

And I'm sure we all generally take it to mean we're going to have an easy time competing against them, because while they're nervously fumbling around trying to figure out which character is closer and which window has focus, I've long since hit flee and claimed the NM.


I've lost multiple claims at Simurgh (until I wisend up) because I was an idiot tabbing between both characters, when if I had just stayed on one I would have had a better chance without a doubt.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:02 pm 
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Did you post this from inside the locker you just got shoved in?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:55 pm 
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Meh

Devils advocate points, dual boxing would technically be illegal in retail since windower was technically illegal. for as long as I can remember alt tabbing crashed you game. Lol only reason this is relevant is because I think square didn’t really want it to be a thing early on either.

Eventually square put in a method to play windowed even without windower.

I don’t care either way, and have an alt myself. But usually don’t dual box unless solo, which is limited.


People who suck at multitasking and dual box annoy the heck out of me though. Nothing annoys me more than miner who stand there not doing anything for 3 mins and not hitting their points while someone else moves all the points for you.

But that’s just my personal problems lol


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People who suck at multitasking and dual box annoy the heck out of me though.

The real problem with dualboxers. Even worse is when they don't tell you. I will once again bring up a party experience I had with a friend who was dualboxing at the time but didn't tell us. He was a PLD in our party and BRD in another. We were wondering why he was playing worse than usual (he did often dualbox in parties with us just fine) - but come on. Don't disrespect people by pretending not to dualbox and then not being able to do your job on both characters.

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