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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:44 pm 
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If you're swapping to -enmity gear but not taking advantage of the distance, you're doing it wrong. This isn't an "or". It's an "and". Do both.

I did not lie. This is NOT SE's change. That's an indisputable fact. Nor is it a nerf if you just get your head out of your butt and actually try to play with the changes instead of playing the same way you did before while ignoring the changes. You have the opportunity to but don't want to.

If that's your stance, that you don't want to and shouldn't need to adjust how you play, then I simply disagree. There will be changes that make people have to play differently in the future, too.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:44 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
I'm not the one who made the change. I told you one of the reasons it was changed.

You didn't respond to either of the suggestions I gave, though.

No one seems to have ever responded to any of the 2 suggestions I just gave and I've seen other people give. Why?

It's a less autopilot job, sure, and I can see why that's annoying for some since they have to play it differently now, but it isn't killing the job. Try either of my suggestions: mitigate the loss of damage by using a weapon that's better in melee range (if you want to stay there so badly), or take advantage of the bonuses given at range, and keep those bonuses, by keeping the mob at range, using the right gear.


It's not about fucking autopilot, it's about the job's viability in endgame situations. Previously there were 4-5 instances where RNG was looked to for dmg before other jobs. Now there will be 0.

Putting on more Enmity gear isn't going to do shit for me when my RNG never pulled hate before this update because I have a GOD DAMN ANNIHILATOR. It's not hard to understand that me spamming a flat enmity WS and getting an extreme -enmity aftermath from said WS leads me to never having hate. Or are you really this retarded?

Edit: I have a 27% nerf to damage from sweetspot to max range on exp level monsters. It's somewhere ~23% when at 20.0.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:47 pm 
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If you don't pull hate, tell me what the issue is then. Because everyone keeps complaining about pulling the mob away form melees etc. What's wrong if you don't pull hate?

Use a weapon that deals more damage at range then. Want the reduced enmity? Eat the reduced damage too. You can't have it both ways. But you have the options.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:48 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
If you don't pull hate, tell me what the issue is then. Because everyone keeps complaining about pulling the mob away form melees etc. What's wrong if you don't pull hate?


A flat damage decrease to the same situation yesterday. Is it that hard to understand? I stand at 24.9 and hit for 101 when yesterday it would have been 125+ easily. Get the fuck over yourself.

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Use a weapon that deals more damage at range then. Want the reduced enmity? Eat the reduced damage too. You can't have it both ways. But you have the options.


Had I known this shit was coming I wouldn't have made an Annihilator. You really are retarded.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:49 pm 
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Ogre Bat eats a Sidewinder for 400 dmg.
Chain #5! You gain 200 exp.
RNG: "shit, better get in the sweat spot."
Ogre bat eats a Sidewinder for 600 dmg.
Ogre bat decides to move 20 yalms and not sit still so the pt can kill it.
you gain 150 exp.
RNG: "Ah shit.. i'm sorry."

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:50 pm 
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Royalized wrote:
Ogre Bat eats a Sidewinder for 400 dmg.
Chain #5! You gain 200 exp.
RNG: "shit, better get in the sweat spot."
Ogre bat eats a Sidewinder for 600 dmg.
Ogre bat decides to move 20 yalms and not sit still so the pt can kill it.
you gain 150 exp.
RNG: "Ah shit.. i'm sorry."

An example of one of those bad RNGs I said probably wouldn't like it.

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Had I known this shit was coming I wouldn't have made an Annihilator. You really are retarded.

This is why nas doesn't reveal his changes before they are made, so that people aren't influenced by upcoming changes.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:53 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Royalized wrote:
Ogre Bat eats a Sidewinder for 400 dmg.
Chain #5! You gain 200 exp.
RNG: "shit, better get in the sweat spot."
Ogre bat eats a Sidewinder for 600 dmg.
Ogre bat decides to move 20 yalms and not sit still so the pt can kill it.
you gain 150 exp.
RNG: "Ah shit.. i'm sorry."

An example of one of those bad RNGs I said probably wouldn't like it.


Yeah, that "bad RNG" you just quoted is pretty much lifetime RDM and DRK... Nice try though.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:54 pm 
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Fidelcashflow wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Royalized wrote:
Ogre Bat eats a Sidewinder for 400 dmg.
Chain #5! You gain 200 exp.
RNG: "shit, better get in the sweat spot."
Ogre bat eats a Sidewinder for 600 dmg.
Ogre bat decides to move 20 yalms and not sit still so the pt can kill it.
you gain 150 exp.
RNG: "Ah shit.. i'm sorry."

An example of one of those bad RNGs I said probably wouldn't like it.


Yeah, that "bad RNG" you just quoted is pretty much lifetime RDM and DRK... Nice try though.

Uh.

He posted a hypothetical. That "bad RNG" doesn't exist. You think I was talking about Royalized?

Do people have that bad of reading comprehension nowadays?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:55 pm 
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Nabutso wrote:
Fidelcashflow wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
An example of one of those bad RNGs I said probably wouldn't like it.


Yeah, that "bad RNG" you just quoted is pretty much lifetime RDM and DRK... Nice try though.

Uh.

He posted a hypothetical. That "bad RNG" doesn't exist. You think I was talking about Royalized?

Do people have that bad of reading comprehension nowadays?


I guess you do, because you can't read between the lines of how fucking obnoxious this update is.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:57 pm 
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Fidelcashflow wrote:
Nabutso wrote:
Fidelcashflow wrote:

Yeah, that "bad RNG" you just quoted is pretty much lifetime RDM and DRK... Nice try though.

Uh.

He posted a hypothetical. That "bad RNG" doesn't exist. You think I was talking about Royalized?

Do people have that bad of reading comprehension nowadays?


I guess you do, because you can't read between the lines of how fucking obnoxious this update is.


It's okay guys all your X-Hit builds are fucked. All your RNGs are going to retire from endgame due to a 27% dmg decrease. Why come that when you have a job that is useful?

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