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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:32 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:

I edited my post to say why it's not "fair". The reason why it's not realistic is because it's a lot of work that is made entirely useless by any group deciding that they don't want to participate.


There are people that aren't willing to spend the time to participate in a HNM camp. So who's to say we don't start to have a imaginative Bubu line problem with pop item's?

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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:39 pm 
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this game is already on easy mode, none of these fights are particularly difficult and auto claim on this server takes out any competition that you imagine is there for claiming an hnm.


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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:42 pm 
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Lempo wrote:
this game is already on easy mode, none of these fights are particularly difficult and auto claim on this server takes out any competition that you imagine is there for claiming an hnm.


you must be new here, the second he takes out auto claim this DA will be a warzone. People will be salty when people with better connections and reduced lag keep getting claim. Plus you will 1000% have a few people bot claiming in there as well. Auto Claim at least you have a chance.

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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:55 pm 
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Lempo wrote:
this game is already on easy mode, none of these fights are particularly difficult and auto claim on this server takes out any competition that you imagine is there for claiming an hnm.



the roads are already bad, we should just stop doing anything at all to maintain them.

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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:45 pm 
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Sapajoee wrote:
Lempo wrote:
this game is already on easy mode, none of these fights are particularly difficult and auto claim on this server takes out any competition that you imagine is there for claiming an hnm.


you must be new here, the second he takes out auto claim this DA will be a warzone. People will be salty when people with better connections and reduced lag keep getting claim. Plus you will 1000% have a few people bot claiming in there as well. Auto Claim at least you have a chance.


you missed the point and contradict yourself at the same time. you claim ffxi hnms to be rewarding and competitive when that entire aspect of claiming over another group is gone here. of course people would be salty without auto claim, they still are with it, but wouldnt that be part of the competition you so stubbornly demand be part of the game so you can shit talk the other linkshells? im not even saying get rid of auto claim, im saying add other options so the people who want to camp hnms every night can, free of lag and zone crashes, and those that dont want to dont have to. is it not just as rewarding to put in time and effort through other means to get the the same end goal? most of us here probably played retail for years and had most of these items, why do we care if people can play the game and do these fights with pop items? ive seen others ask for einherjar be added to the server, are you against that as well since people could get these same abjurations without camping fafhogg? either way with how stubborn nasomi seems to be on other things in the past im sure none of this matters anyways.


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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:13 pm 
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Lempo wrote:
you missed the point and contradict yourself at the same time. you claim ffxi hnms to be rewarding and competitive when that entire aspect of claiming over another group is gone here. of course people would be salty without auto claim, they still are with it, but wouldnt that be part of the competition you so stubbornly demand be part of the game so you can shit talk the other linkshells? im not even saying get rid of auto claim, im saying add other options so the people who want to camp hnms every night can, free of lag and zone crashes, and those that dont want to dont have to. is it not just as rewarding to put in time and effort through other means to get the the same end goal? most of us here probably played retail for years and had most of these items, why do we care if people can play the game and do these fights with pop items? ive seen others ask for einherjar be added to the server, are you against that as well since people could get these same abjurations without camping fafhogg? either way with how stubborn nasomi seems to be on other things in the past im sure none of this matters anyways.


Not everyone is supposed to have every piece of gear. Adding pop items for HNMs exponentially raises the rate at which these items enter the game. Which in turns shortens the lifespan of the game for some players.

Einherjar was 72hr lockout and needed all 9 feathers on 1 char(generally mules in era) to open the battle with Odin. You needed 1 feather from each tier(1-3) to enter the Odin fight. Even at the best rate you have Odin fights every 12 days.

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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:22 pm 
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To the folks interested in a pop item system for Fafhogg and friends, your pop item would have < 0.01% drop rate. That's what Nasomi would give you.


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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:47 pm 
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I do still want a pop item for Ulli tho

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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:23 pm 
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Pop items were a huge part of what destroyed ffxi on retail. Because of them the challenge and pretty much all the fun was sucked out of Hnms.
Super rare and hard to get items and fights are what real ffxi is about imo. There is nothing worse than making it so everyone has rare abjurations
and they lose all there value. (by the way I'm not even at endgame in nasomi so I don't have any really good gear either).


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 Post subject: Re: 200+ in DA Tonight
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:38 am 
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The pipe dream of having /random between ls's sounds great until you get the 1 ls that isn't willing to conform or a brand new ls who never entered that agreement before show up with 20+ and ruin your chances at getting it. There's no way to account for those scenarios unless everyone gets into a collective agreement with Nas that would allow for the greater whole to mpk/steal at will whenever someone doesn't conform to those social contracts which may also open up weird situations for jp / chinese / taiwanese / etc linkshells who don't even speak english in the first place.

Too many variables, none of which you can actually control.


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