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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:05 pm 
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Oh, and as humorous as this was to read after Dirac put it in discord, this is getting close to harassment.

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lol, knew you were his butt buddy or something. impartial opinions don't count.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:06 pm 
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From the rules on harassment:

• Any group formed for the purpose of harassing a player or players.

I don't think we need to ask about interpretation on this one vs. the screenshot posted.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:06 pm 
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Oh, and as humorous as this was to read after Dirac put it in discord, this is getting close to harassment.

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lol, knew you were his butt buddy or something. impartial opinions don't count.



you seem to be counting yours pretty firmly

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:08 pm 
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This is just a gut reaction, with the caveat that I have no horse in this race since I have not bothered w/ Bubu in over a year, but why is OP even bothering to go if he admits his group struggles on pulls and has no hope of clearing? Seems like a waste of everyone's time and experience points to even put yourself in that queue until you can at least meet the minimum benchmark of clearing the zone. By broadcasting that situation, you're pretty much inviting any group that doesn't care about the "line" to jump in on your runs because they'll be able to steal 80% of the mobs while you struggle. Would recommend everyone in your group getting some more gear and merits to make adequate use of the zone (assuming ofc that you don't get banned, GL!) This opinion is likely unpopular and mostly unrelated to the topic, but there it is.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:11 pm 
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This is just a gut reaction, with the caveat that I have no horse in this race since I have not bothered w/ Bubu in over a year, but why is OP even bothering to go if he admits his group struggles on pulls and has no hope of clearing? Seems like a waste of everyone's time and experience points to even put yourself in that queue until you can at least meet the minimum benchmark of clearing the zone. By broadcasting that situation, you're pretty much inviting any group that doesn't care about the "line" to jump in on your runs because they'll be able to steal 80% of the mobs while you struggle. Would recommend everyone in your group getting some more gear and merits to make adequate use of the zone (assuming ofc that you don't get banned, GL!) This opinion is likely unpopular and mostly unrelated to the topic, but there it is.


You're saying people new to dreamworld dynamis shouldn't be given ample opportunity to improve their runs? Pretty elitist. Our time spent in Bubu is just as valuable as anyone else's.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:11 pm 
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Tankfest wrote:
Epyon wrote:
This is just a gut reaction, with the caveat that I have no horse in this race since I have not bothered w/ Bubu in over a year, but why is OP even bothering to go if he admits his group struggles on pulls and has no hope of clearing? Seems like a waste of everyone's time and experience points to even put yourself in that queue until you can at least meet the minimum benchmark of clearing the zone. By broadcasting that situation, you're pretty much inviting any group that doesn't care about the "line" to jump in on your runs because they'll be able to steal 80% of the mobs while you struggle. Would recommend everyone in your group getting some more gear and merits to make adequate use of the zone (assuming ofc that you don't get banned, GL!) This opinion is likely unpopular and mostly unrelated to the topic, but there it is.


You're saying people new to dreamworld dynamis shouldn't be given ample opportunity to improve their runs? Pretty elitist. Our time spent in Bubu is just as valuable as anyone else's.


Go to Qufim to learn.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:12 pm 
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Tankfest wrote:
Epyon wrote:
This is just a gut reaction, with the caveat that I have no horse in this race since I have not bothered w/ Bubu in over a year, but why is OP even bothering to go if he admits his group struggles on pulls and has no hope of clearing? Seems like a waste of everyone's time and experience points to even put yourself in that queue until you can at least meet the minimum benchmark of clearing the zone. By broadcasting that situation, you're pretty much inviting any group that doesn't care about the "line" to jump in on your runs because they'll be able to steal 80% of the mobs while you struggle. Would recommend everyone in your group getting some more gear and merits to make adequate use of the zone (assuming ofc that you don't get banned, GL!) This opinion is likely unpopular and mostly unrelated to the topic, but there it is.


You're saying people new to dreamworld dynamis shouldn't be given ample opportunity to improve their runs? Pretty elitist. Our time spent in Bubu is just as valuable as anyone else's.


Go to Qufim to learn.


Learn Bubu pulls in Qufim?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:14 pm 
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Tankfest wrote:
Epyon wrote:
This is just a gut reaction, with the caveat that I have no horse in this race since I have not bothered w/ Bubu in over a year, but why is OP even bothering to go if he admits his group struggles on pulls and has no hope of clearing? Seems like a waste of everyone's time and experience points to even put yourself in that queue until you can at least meet the minimum benchmark of clearing the zone. By broadcasting that situation, you're pretty much inviting any group that doesn't care about the "line" to jump in on your runs because they'll be able to steal 80% of the mobs while you struggle. Would recommend everyone in your group getting some more gear and merits to make adequate use of the zone (assuming ofc that you don't get banned, GL!) This opinion is likely unpopular and mostly unrelated to the topic, but there it is.


You're saying people new to dreamworld dynamis shouldn't be given ample opportunity to improve their runs? Pretty elitist. Our time spent in Bubu is just as valuable as anyone else's.



Fair response, and I still agree with epy lol. No one's time is valuable in Bubu to anyone but the people inside. Telling people that you're headed in to use the full amount of time, and struggle with it, is just going to result in people joining with you knowing that they'll get most of the run.

You're welcome to keep going to Bubu and arguing with people and struggling... but as I've said the last time, I genuinely don't understand how people justify dealing with all the shit that comes with Bubu when Valk and Qufim exist just fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:14 pm 
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Tankfest wrote:
Epyon wrote:
This is just a gut reaction, with the caveat that I have no horse in this race since I have not bothered w/ Bubu in over a year, but why is OP even bothering to go if he admits his group struggles on pulls and has no hope of clearing? Seems like a waste of everyone's time and experience points to even put yourself in that queue until you can at least meet the minimum benchmark of clearing the zone. By broadcasting that situation, you're pretty much inviting any group that doesn't care about the "line" to jump in on your runs because they'll be able to steal 80% of the mobs while you struggle. Would recommend everyone in your group getting some more gear and merits to make adequate use of the zone (assuming ofc that you don't get banned, GL!) This opinion is likely unpopular and mostly unrelated to the topic, but there it is.


You're saying people new to dreamworld dynamis shouldn't be given ample opportunity to improve their runs? Pretty elitist. Our time spent in Bubu is just as valuable as anyone else's.



Fair response, and I still agree with epy lol. No one's time is valuable in Bubu to anyone but the people inside. Telling people that you're headed in to use the full amount of time, and struggle with it, is just going to result in people joining with you knowing that they'll get most of the run.

You're welcome to keep going to Bubu and arguing with people and struggling... but as I've said the last time, I genuinely don't understand how people justify dealing with all the shit that comes with Bubu when Valk and Qufim exist just fine.


Well I wouldn't know from experience, but apparently bubu has the easiest pulls.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:15 pm 
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Tankfest wrote:
Wolffhardt wrote:
Tankfest wrote:

You're saying people new to dreamworld dynamis shouldn't be given ample opportunity to improve their runs? Pretty elitist. Our time spent in Bubu is just as valuable as anyone else's.



Fair response, and I still agree with epy lol. No one's time is valuable in Bubu to anyone but the people inside. Telling people that you're headed in to use the full amount of time, and struggle with it, is just going to result in people joining with you knowing that they'll get most of the run.

You're welcome to keep going to Bubu and arguing with people and struggling... but as I've said the last time, I genuinely don't understand how people justify dealing with all the shit that comes with Bubu when Valk and Qufim exist just fine.


Well I wouldn't know from experience, but apparently bubu has the easiest pulls.



Ehh... That's probably true, but not by a wide enough margin to justify sitting in line for hours, and then having to deal with this headache.

Bubu is the only zone that doesn't require you to time nuke a beastmen statue to get the full run, and effing that up can result in some death or at least some loss in time. That's about all I'd say for the advantage of Bubu.

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