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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:54 am 
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Bielsa wrote:
Logic is hard man.



Youre so cringe. Misunderstand someone and claim they need to learn to read. You cant logically follow an argument, so obviously logic is hard.

The first 2 pieces of evidence submitted showed triumph claiming vrtra and vrtra being red to zigma, and so I stated it was claimed to zigma. It is mentioned and confirmed by 2-3 people that a bug exists that causes all claimed mobs to be red to some people. I literally admit my bias, show you the other group's side of the story, and admit I could be wrong.

At no point did zigma prove all mobs claimed are red to him, and even if they are, that still doesnt prove this vrtra wasnt claimed to him. However, at no point after that did I say the mob was still claimed to zigma. I literally took his word for it and quoted a 3rd piece of evidence, said there's a good chance there's an additional bug that left the mob claimed to xorion's corpse or a party member. At no point did either of you present evidence countering this and it was also confirmed to be a possible bug by 2 people. Yet the two of you just doubled down and acted like you had any fucking clue what was going on.

Now it seems the reality is it could be a bug that had it claimed to a triumph leviathan that was desummoned.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:27 am 
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Camper wrote:
Manteel is useless on Nasomi.


Shut up bro!!! I'm enjoying the shitshow.

Still waiting for the final word on Baxian and co. with MF.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:19 am 
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exelyon wrote:
Bielsa wrote:
Logic is hard man.



Youre so cringe. Misunderstand someone and claim they need to learn to read. You cant logically follow an argument, so obviously logic is hard.

The first 2 pieces of evidence submitted showed triumph claiming vrtra and vrtra being red to zigma, and so I stated it was claimed to zigma. It is mentioned and confirmed by 2-3 people that a bug exists that causes all claimed mobs to be red to some people. I literally admit my bias, show you the other group's side of the story, and admit I could be wrong.

At no point did zigma prove all mobs claimed are red to him, and even if they are, that still doesnt prove this vrtra wasnt claimed to him. However, at no point after that did I say the mob was still claimed to zigma. I literally took his word for it and quoted a 3rd piece of evidence, said there's a good chance there's an additional bug that left the mob claimed to xorion's corpse or a party member. At no point did either of you present evidence countering this and it was also confirmed to be a possible bug by 2 people. Yet the two of you just doubled down and acted like you had any fucking clue what was going on.

Now it seems the reality is it could be a bug that had it claimed to a triumph leviathan that was desummoned.


I might be cringe but...

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Legit 2 other people said that there was a bug prior to your posts and you kept saying the same crap over and over. I heard you can get your GED even though you dropped out of high school, you should check on that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:40 am 
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Kazen wrote:
Camper wrote:
Manteel is useless on Nasomi.


Shut up bro!!! I'm enjoying the shitshow.

Still waiting for the final word on Baxian and co. with MF.


Baxian has been warned. We made it adamantly clear to the Chinese that any further questionable behavior will result in immediate kick. You can quote me on that if anything pops up in the future.

@exelyon: you're trying to reason with members of the Zigbot crew. C'mon, guy. I give you props for taking it this far, but you may want to call it a day.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:17 am 
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We need the Chinese players' kclubs for our AV attempts soon, so no action will be taken against them at this time

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:20 am 
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Ash wrote:
Baxian has been warned. We made it adamantly clear to the Chinese that any further questionable behavior will result in immediate kick. You can quote me on that if anything pops up in the future.


lul, ZeRo ToLeRaNcE

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:19 am 
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Tex wrote:
Ash wrote:
We need the Chinese players' kclubs for our AV attempts soon, so no action will be taken against them at this time


lol

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:45 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
Bielsa wrote:
Logic is hard man.



Youre so cringe. Misunderstand someone and claim they need to learn to read. You cant logically follow an argument, so obviously logic is hard.

The first 2 pieces of evidence submitted showed triumph claiming vrtra and vrtra being red to zigma, and so I stated it was claimed to zigma. It is mentioned and confirmed by 2-3 people that a bug exists that causes all claimed mobs to be red to some people. I literally admit my bias, show you the other group's side of the story, and admit I could be wrong.

At no point did zigma prove all mobs claimed are red to him, and even if they are, that still doesnt prove this vrtra wasnt claimed to him. However, at no point after that did I say the mob was still claimed to zigma. I literally took his word for it and quoted a 3rd piece of evidence, said there's a good chance there's an additional bug that left the mob claimed to xorion's corpse or a party member. At no point did either of you present evidence countering this and it was also confirmed to be a possible bug by 2 people. Yet the two of you just doubled down and acted like you had any fucking clue what was going on.

Now it seems the reality is it could be a bug that had it claimed to a triumph leviathan that was desummoned.


The reason why everything you're writing is getting thrown out the window and why people are calling you a dumb ass is because you're claiming every instance where it is abundantly clear that Ash MPK'd is in essence due to a bug.

I mean, for crying out loud, you're now saying that it was some bug associated to leviathan that was desummoned. Fucking A. I mean, okay, let me play devils advocate for a second. Let's say Ash wasn't MPK'ing (which he was!!) and he was just giving Vrtra back to a claiming PT (which he wasn't, it was never claimed to us) why in the WORLD would he not bring it to where our tanks were? I mean, shit, he runs right past 2/3 tanks that are standing in close proximity to each other, continues on his merry way and runs it straight to the biggest group of triumph people that are in the "safe" area (hugging the inner wall). When he see's that people are scattering, he continues to run to the biggest bunch of people as some suicidal bomber. He even get's called out in /say and never once tries to defend himself over /tell.

Come on man...

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still lost why you wouldnt gather and regroup outside the Vrtra pop area soooo this wouldnt have happen....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:59 pm 
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It's literally the same groups that have been abusing the level sync bug and using AoEs on a high level char to level groups of lower levels. It happens in Gusgen, it happens in Ordelles, there's a reason these guys are in super obscure locations and anon all the time. Looking at the people involved, it does seem to be 'primairily' chinese players, just stating fact. The more this goes on results in more and more reports to Nas from players and distracts from other important server issues. This shit is just obnoxious at the point, it's been made clear by the latest round of bans that included characters that have been observed down there that this is not ok. I don't care about the vrtra clip, but between monopolizing pug camp and using these method, certain players are cranking out maats cap jobs in 2-4 days.
Shit happens at HNM, as a linkshell you need to rely on you linkshell thinking on the fly, I think its a far cry for mpk here though. As if people haven't been wrongfully flailed at any wyrm due to things not going smooth, whether via player or server stability.


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