Not gonna lie, I still don't understand why the mules are set up on the track instead of up in the stands where all the stuff is, lol.

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Don't they call what he did insider trading in RL? If he didn't even know Argus was going to get fixed, why did Nas take them? Unless maybe he did know? And even if he didn't know, I think the argument is a Dev shouldnt be making such questionable moves regarding the economy. I think nas made the right decision from a PR standpoint.

Well, this is PCC we are talking about, it never really should have been an affordable item for newer players anyways. I wouldn't say it's a luxury item, but it is most certainly a top-tier item, not just for it's level but well beyond that. The main reason it has been so cheap is because of the devastation Argus has been through with glitches. Other reasons obviously being that it has more source than you'd expect, and a somewhat low population.

So, given the multiple sources (BCNM / OWNM / Argus) and a, what? 300~ population? I see it in the realm of 800-1M. That is probably stretching it though, as the players who would be in a position to buy it, all have one. So what's left are the newer generation of players and the very few, if any, who didn't pick one up when they were dirt cheap for whatever reason, and suddenly find themselves needing one, for new jobs they are taking up, or whatever.

I think realistic price would be 500-700k.

It has nothing to do with PR. Their solution to fixing the problem of there being too many illegitimate Peacock Charms in the market was to have Deadwing buy a bunch of them and then destroy them.

He wasn't buying them to flip them. That was made clear in this thread. They were just trying to approach the problem with a much softer hand than usual.

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What world do you live in? Last post page 2 of this thread, quoting Deadwing himself~


"Well, you didn't rat me out as I was neither hiding nor breaking any rules. You actually don't know what's going on either. Let me explain:

I was buying PCC before I knew argus was broken.
I was buying PCC after I knew argus was broken but before nas knew
I was buying PCC after nas knew it was broken and before the fix
I was buying PCC after it was fixed
I've just been buying a lot of PCC.

On a server where 75% of your gil can just vanish one morning, it pays to have a large position in tangible items. Mine is nearly a hundred million, with the PCC as the high-risk/high-reward component. Maybe Nas wanted the argus spawn time that low, maybe the server goes to 2k population and PCC price increases without a respawn fix, maybe Argus breaks for 9 months like simurgh did and PCC go to the moon, maybe it gets changed to a peacock amulet, maybe the server closes down tomorrow. .I don't know what the future is going to hold, but at 100k/charm the possibility of favorable outcomes outweigh the possibility of negative outcomes better than anything else I could be buying/synthing for a long term trade-- so that is where I direct my money

I think the observant people looking at this situation understand the timing does not line up correctly for insider trading. This is not an accident on my part.
Whether server rules or AH changes should be made to encompass speculation is another matter entirely, but I think I'll sit that discussion out.

This isn't entirely on topic, but I think I need to make something clear: Nas is his own man. The only reason the contributions I make are accepted and used are because they are in line with what Nas wants to be happening anyway. I don't like the entire toau expansion being level 99, but trying to persuade Nas on this point gets me no further than anyone else. Maybe he has plans to normalize it when the server pop goes higher, maybe there is a longer term solution in the works, maybe it's just going to stay that way. I really have no idea. The vast majority of what I assist Nas with he could just as easily handle himself IF he had the time to pour into it. He's off fixing X Y and Z stability issues that I don't even fully understand, so I'll try to cover the easier stuff as best as I can. Don't give me too much credit."


He clearly said he was buying it as a future investment, (investment means you spend money expecting to get a higher return in the future, i.e. sell them for more than you buy). If nas wanted to clean up the pcc in the market, he could just do that, he wouldn't need Deadwing to buy them lol.

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I have to admit I did not read through this post past the first page.

Just my opinion is if ppl are smart enough to find a good way to make gil, let them do it. If you do not agree with that, farm it and undercut.

Everyone coming to the server says "I want to experience the retail feeling again". Go farm and camp against competition again if this is really the reason. So prices in AH wont matter. Noone entered retail in the era the server reflects and bought everything cheap from AH.

It really says there is a much bigger probolem and one the admin already knows exists or did exist.

The problem is the large amount of gil that should NOT be there.

This is exactly what happened to the original FFXi game,rmt ruined it forever.

I have seen mention of server returning to normal,this is completely false,it will never return to normal.

I just witnessed starting swords on AH for 10k gil,that is insane,a new player is lucky to attain 1k gil in a reasonable amount of time before he already out levels that sword.

What SHOULD be done is basic items should be nearly free to all players or at least to noobs because i am sure mANY players do not want to be involved in the higher RMT market of the game.Leave those and the high priced items to themselves,that way other honest players can still enjoy the game without the headaches of just attaining BASIC starting gear/items.

Theres not that much gil in circulation. A few months ago it was at 1bil, which is 1mil per person over 1000 people, hardly a lot. There is no RMT, no one is selling gil for rl currency. Starting swords you can buy at weapon shops for minimal gil...in fact all gear pre 10 you can buy from vendors....

Low level weapons via crafting are actually pretty expensive. When a sword takes 2 iron ingots thats 5.4k just in cost of ingot, and of course no one is going to synth them for free. Low lvl hq items aren't for new players.

Yes starting out is slow. I also made a gil guide. If you can't get a few 10k as a low level you need to reevaluate your methods.

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No one is going to take you seriously as long as you keep on mentioning RMT. I don't think you actually know what the word means. You just think that it's "something bad associated with the economy" and keep mentioning it like some buzzword that'll lend you some credence, but the word has nothing to do with anything you're talking about.

Also why the hell would a noob ever buy a starting sword from the AH? I thought it was obvious to buy weapons from low level NPC's. And the server is never going to just hand anything out for free (if it did I would probably be gone), because on retail they didn't hand anything out for free during CoP.

Seriously?



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Also, the talk of RMT happening on Nasomi. It exists, it's not even that difficult to find if you want (won't link or give hints). But there is definitely a market there. It's inevitable when any private server becomes popular enough. Watch, Sea is going to be fixed and Whm will be wanted again.