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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:43 pm 
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Ob is going to be a nightmare at 100k a pop lol


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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:44 pm 
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Pop items were traditionally KIs, correct? So does this mean the new pop items are not? I wonder if they would be sellable then too. I assume the trophy items he is referring to are the items in retail you used to trade for the KI? Correct me if I am wrong

EDIT: Now I see, you used the KI to buy the appropriate pop item. My b, it's been awhile.


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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:55 pm 
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Central wrote:
PW is not the only thing ZNM has to offer guys, they also have valuable drops. You really want to pay 1M for a chance at Avocat's Pigaches? Remember how often THAT particular ZNM had to be done several times EACH ZNM event just so people could have it? Remember all the Ferrara that floored? I do.


I remember that NM taking like 9 kills for me to get. Not sure if I had bad luck but yeah >.>

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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:05 pm 
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i'd pay 9m for a pair of avocat's.


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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:18 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
exelyon wrote:
Depending on the drop rates of trophy items and pop items, 100k a starter item will get expensive.


im happy about this, but unfortunately I expect the trophy rate to be fairly high.



Well, even if theyre 100%, you need to kill each znm 3 times to pop the next one once. Sooo like 8.1m to pop a T4 at 100% drop rate? I think that's right. 300k x3 to pop t3, 900k x3 for 1 part of t4, so 2.7mx3 for a t4? Since theyre less than 100%, itll cost more, which I dont think that's too unreasonably high or low.


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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:32 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
Starbright wrote:
exelyon wrote:
Depending on the drop rates of trophy items and pop items, 100k a starter item will get expensive.


im happy about this, but unfortunately I expect the trophy rate to be fairly high.



Well, even if theyre 100%, you need to kill each znm 3 times to pop the next one once. Sooo like 8.1m to pop a T4 at 100% drop rate? I think that's right. 300k x3 to pop t3, 900k x3 for 1 part of t4, so 2.7mx3 for a t4? Since theyre less than 100%, itll cost more, which I dont think that's too unreasonably high or low.

Actually I take it back. ~7-9m on average x9 T4 kills for 1 PW is pretty unreasonable.


If you go back to the calculator earlier and if I am entering everything right, even at 100% on the pop items you're talking about a 227M PW. Is that right?


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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:00 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
Starbright wrote:
exelyon wrote:
Depending on the drop rates of trophy items and pop items, 100k a starter item will get expensive.


im happy about this, but unfortunately I expect the trophy rate to be fairly high.



Well, even if theyre 100%, you need to kill each znm 3 times to pop the next one once. Sooo like 8.1m to pop a T4 at 100% drop rate? I think that's right. 300k x3 to pop t3, 900k x3 for 1 part of t4, so 2.7mx3 for a t4? Since theyre less than 100%, itll cost more, which I dont think that's too unreasonably high or low.

Actually I take it back. ~7-9m on average x9 T4 kills for 1 PW is pretty unreasonable.



You're forgetting the times that a pop item drops though ont he first kill. That lessens it.

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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:06 pm 
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"When T4 trophy/pop items drop, a one time use KI will also be added to all members of the fight that will allow them to port to the island to fight the T4's."

So you need to bring the whole team and only the whole team to your run for t3s as well. Or at least have people get the KI (ala soap) so everyone can warp out for a t4 run.


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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:09 pm 
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Meridian90 wrote:
"When T4 trophy/pop items drop, a one time use KI will also be added to all members of the fight that will allow them to port to the island to fight the T4's."

So you need to bring the whole team and only the whole team to your run for t3s as well. Or at least have people get the KI (ala soap) so everyone can warp out for a t4 run.


Given the information we know, that sounds correct

In before: /sh selling T4 ZNM KI, 200k


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 Post subject: Re: CONTENT?!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:44 pm 
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Starbright wrote:
exelyon wrote:
Starbright wrote:

im happy about this, but unfortunately I expect the trophy rate to be fairly high.



Well, even if theyre 100%, you need to kill each znm 3 times to pop the next one once. Sooo like 8.1m to pop a T4 at 100% drop rate? I think that's right. 300k x3 to pop t3, 900k x3 for 1 part of t4, so 2.7mx3 for a t4? Since theyre less than 100%, itll cost more, which I dont think that's too unreasonably high or low.

Actually I take it back. ~7-9m on average x9 T4 kills for 1 PW is pretty unreasonable.



You're forgetting the times that a pop item drops though ont he first kill. That lessens it.



Drop rate will be the driving force behind all of this. That's the biggest thing. The 100k could either be reasonable or terrible depending on drop rates.

If the trophy item is say 25% and the pop items are 75% that will be hugely different than like 10% and 50%.


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