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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:31 am 
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Aramiltaru wrote:
Black mages don't learn sneak or invisible, red and white mages do.

Might as well also say thing seemingly obvious thing but may not be that obvious to first-day players - When people say that "mages learn that spell by level X" (e.g. white and red mages learn invisible at level 25) it doesn't mean that they automatically knows it, it just means that this is the required level for them to be able to learn it. To actually learn the spell you need to get and use the corresponding spell scroll. These can be bought from basic spell stores in all 3 starting cities, more advanced level spell merchants in Selbina, even more advanced spell stores in Windurst and Jeuno, the auction house (virtually sells everything that's not exclusive) as well as drops from certain mage-monsters.
Specifically Sneak and Invisible are sold by the merchants in Selbina, which is nice because if you've been partying there till level 25 you can just buy the spells (assuming that you have the necessary gil) and save the worries about pulling aggros while leaving the area. The downside is that Sneak and Invisible may actually be two of the few spells that are actually go cheaper from the AH than from the merchants, especially Sneak since it can drop from the very low level Amethyst Quadav in South Gustaberg (if you're Bastokan just farm it from them while still soloing), so you may want to buy them ahead of time.
EDIT: One exception is that if you start a new job that shares spells with one of your existing jobs (e.g. you were white mage and now start as a reg mage) then your new job will automatically know those spells the moment it hits their level requirement, e.g. assuming that the white mage knew cure (really not a very big "if") and you switch to the red mage job, your red mage will automatically know cure once it hits level 3. It won't automatically know, however, any spells that the white mage didn't.

Oh, it should also be noted that both Selbina and Mhaura have nomad moogles, which allow you access to your mog safe (and the rest of the mog inventory, as well as the delivery box and the ability to change jobs) so you don't need to grab everything you'll ever need when leaving your starting city and heading for the dunes.


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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:32 pm 
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If possible, you should try to condense & organize all this info into the OP. I don't know many new players who are going to want to read through 7 pages of unsorted forum posts.

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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:42 pm 
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Kharlan wrote:
If possible, you should try to condense & organize all this info into the OP. I don't know many new players who are going to want to read through 7 pages of unsorted forum posts.


Kharlan wrote:
Go fill out the wiki

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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:47 pm 
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Aeroo wrote:
Kharlan wrote:
If possible, you should try to condense & organize all this info into the OP. I don't know many new players who are going to want to read through 7 pages of unsorted forum posts.


Kharlan wrote:
Go fill out the wiki

LOL this guy

I'm not the one whining about there being nothing to do. ;) I have plenty to do... like stop being a scrub and actually hit 75.

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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:12 am 
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And spamming ;P


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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:13 pm 
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whiskeywes wrote:
And spamming ;P

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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:12 pm 
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As requested - edited everything into a shiny wiki page.
Feel free to edit and add.


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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:46 pm 
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That's awesome! Great work! You should update your OP with a link to it :)

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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:21 pm 
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Kharlan wrote:
That's awesome! Great work! You should update your OP with a link to it :)

Edited the OP and also added a new mistake -

External Documentation:
External documentation sources are a great resource, especially since FFXI is not very newbie friendly, e.g. you may be stuck in a quest, not know what a specific item does and the game does not really make it easier for you. Two notable external resources are FFXIcyclopedia, which documents pretty much everything, from quests walkthrough to every detail on every obtainable item in the game. As of the time of writing this, it contains over 50K articles. Another notable website is Vana'diel Atlas, containing a complete map and information on the FFXI world, however there is on critical mistake regarding the use of these:
  • Using too-recent information - Generally every wiki that does not refer to Nasomi or a specific community server is based on retail, and updated resources are based on retail as it is today. Nasomi attempts to recreate FFXI as it was in 2005, which in some aspects is a very different experience. Generally numbers will usually be different (e.g. item costs, spell MP cost etc.), certain documented quests may be missing from Nasomi because they're out of era, probably other things. Since FFXIcyclopedia is a wiki you can try using the history function to look up the article as it was around 2005 - if it existed the information should more accurately reflect how Nasomi works.
  • Inactive NPCs - In some cases an out of era quest or functionality does not exist in Nasomi but it's impossible to remove NPCs or objects associated with it because they're hardcoded into the game data files. The result is that these NPCs will appear in the game but will ignore any interaction attempt so if you click on an NPC and do not receive any message in the chat log that's probably the case.


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 Post subject: Re: New player mistakes
PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:12 am 
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