And again, some of the CoP era camps aren't viable on Nasomi, you can't do Bibiki Bay goblins, for example, which were very popular camps on retail. Some of the older camps aren't really viable either, like Kuftal tigers, because AGAIN, they spam AOE paralysis and claw cyclone can easily kill. You have to paralyna/silena whoever has hate in LoO every 5-10 seconds, it's like that but for the entire party in Kuftal.

I don't expect the best camp every time, but sorry, I'm not doing 6k/hr in the Boyahda Tree or Kuftal Tunnel on crabs. I'm not going to a camp that runs out of mobs in 6 minutes leaving the party to sit there doing nothing for the next 10. If we had the same camp options we had in retail, it wouldn't be so bad, but lots of higher-level camps are not really viable or are sub-par on Nasomi for the reasons I already provided. There are no new camps to "explore" we know what's out there, its not a matter of laziness or ignorance.

As per everyone else on this server, Gobs are fine if you use barfira on the group. Also I don't know how a popular retail camps kuftal tunnel and LoO aren't "viable" just because the mage needs to remove a status effect every few seconds. Your /whm needs to do more than just heal and rest, what a shame.

This is legitimately a good idea. Start up a blm shell, invite people that are leveling blm/brd/cor/rdm. Make a place where you can help each other on the 50-75 end of the grind.

...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.

As per everyone else on this server, Gobs are fine if you use barfira on the group. Also I don't know how a popular retail camps kuftal tunnel and LoO aren't "viable" just because the mage needs to remove a status effect every few seconds. Your /whm needs to do more than just heal and rest, what a shame.

...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.

I've got no idea who Rmackner is in game, but I'm guessing they haven't tried to party against the tigers? LoO is fine for Torama's, because positioning means that you can focus these statuses on one person generally. I enjoy the Torama camp, honestly. There's a legitimate issue with mobs spamming AoE moves, faster and more often than on retail, and to just simplify that down to "omg your /whm has to do his job" instead of "wow, that sounds broken. I can see why people wouldn't want to XP there" is a very odd mindset... But yes, the WHM needing to constantly remove a powerful paralysis from all the melee, multiple times a fight, really makes everyone wish they'd just decided to do something else with their game in the game.

...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.

Nice. But for real:
❌ Shell
❌ BarFira
❌ Low gob HP
✅ Tarus
✅ Ninjas and THFs feeding TP

By the way:


You and Suk would have been the only deaths if you guys had Shell III up. Suk only because he wasn't at max HP, too. Or, if you did a bit more damage to the Gob before it went off, the damage would be lower, so you would have survived too and only Suk would have died (again due to not being at max HP).

Bomb toss with 0 mitigation, low HP races and jobs, lots of mob TP and HP is a real doozy, Nasomi or otherwise Tech :p

...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.

Just to be clear.. You're saying TP moves by mobs work on Nasomi just like they did on retail?