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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:11 pm 
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Nazgul wrote:
From the rules on harassment:

• Any group formed for the purpose of harassing a player or players.

I don't think we need to ask about interpretation on this one vs. the screenshot posted.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:12 pm 
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Sure seems like a lot of common denominator in Bubu arguments is a blue pearl.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:13 pm 
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exelyon wrote:
Yeah, op is something else. But this is definitely a both sides fucking suck thread.


I don't know if I'd go that far. A holding party relies on you having your sleeper there. Miroqu as RDM/COR is absolutely by no stretch of any imagination the group's sleeper. Hittman wasn't at the markings and was in Mhaura all the way until 3 minutes to zone in time. His alt, Komm, was in Bubu with Fujin's group during this from what I saw.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:14 pm 
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Are relics really worth all this?
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Entry wrote:
exelyon wrote:
Yeah, op is something else. But this is definitely a both sides fucking suck thread.


I don't know if I'd go that far. A holding party relies on you having your sleeper there. Miroqu as RDM/COR is absolutely by no stretch of any imagination the group's sleeper. Hittman wasn't at the markings and was in Mhaura all the way until 3 minutes to zone in time. His alt, Komm, was in Bubu with Fujin's group during this from what I saw.



Yeah, except everyone here besides Tankfest isn't retarded and knows what you were doing was still shitty.

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...TopShelf told Nas to roll back all your ZNM gear, do the gilpocalypse and nerf Fishing/RNG into the ground.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:16 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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exelyon wrote:
Yeah, op is something else. But this is definitely a both sides fucking suck thread.


I don't know if I'd go that far. A holding party relies on you having your sleeper there. Miroqu as RDM/COR is absolutely by no stretch of any imagination the group's sleeper. Hittman wasn't at the markings and was in Mhaura all the way until 3 minutes to zone in time. His alt, Komm, was in Bubu with Fujin's group during this from what I saw.



Yeah, except everyone here besides Tankfest isn't retarded and knows what you were doing was still shitty.


Fuck holding parties then, I guess. As long as I have 4 people at the zone I have the right to enter first. Doesn't matter what level/job they're on.

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Entry wrote:
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I don't know if I'd go that far. A holding party relies on you having your sleeper there. Miroqu as RDM/COR is absolutely by no stretch of any imagination the group's sleeper. Hittman wasn't at the markings and was in Mhaura all the way until 3 minutes to zone in time. His alt, Komm, was in Bubu with Fujin's group during this from what I saw.



Yeah, except everyone here besides Tankfest isn't retarded and knows what you were doing was still shitty.


Fuck holding parties then, I guess. As long as I have 4 people at the zone I have the right to enter first. Doesn't matter what level/job they're on.


Did the mobs that your group told them would be there's in the split just not spawn this instance?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:18 pm 
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Wolffhardt wrote:
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Yeah, except everyone here besides Tankfest isn't retarded and knows what you were doing was still shitty.


Fuck holding parties then, I guess. As long as I have 4 people at the zone I have the right to enter first. Doesn't matter what level/job they're on.


Did the mobs that your group told them would be there's in the split just not spawn this instance?


When it became apparent Miroqu was not actually the person they were intending to use to sleep the zone their entire claim on the instance became moot. When Hittman came out of Mhaura and walked up to the markings talking trash, whatever diplomacy had occurred until that point became irrelevant.

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GrendelsPRGuy wrote:
Entry wrote:
exelyon wrote:
Yeah, op is something else. But this is definitely a both sides fucking suck thread.


I don't know if I'd go that far. A holding party relies on you having your sleeper there. Miroqu as RDM/COR is absolutely by no stretch of any imagination the group's sleeper. Hittman wasn't at the markings and was in Mhaura all the way until 3 minutes to zone in time. His alt, Komm, was in Bubu with Fujin's group during this from what I saw.


Ya, outside of Tankfests claims, I have a hard time seeing what DB did wrong in this scenario.



Id say DB was at least part in the wrong if they agreed to split the zone, and then went back on that. But I didnt see any agreement to split the zone in the screenshots show.


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The spirit of the holding party is that the group is signifying that they are ready to enter and can enter, when the zone becomes available or they aren't in line. If you need that RDM to spend 5 seconds to walk into Mhaura and switch to /BLM just because their final member isn't there yetm to make you feel warm inside.. That's on you. Everyone else isn't being an asshole on purpose though, and realize that they have a sleeper, BLM, BLM, and THF in line.

If the zone opens up, and they aren't entering because of that RDM/COR and their actual sleeper isn't there yet? Go right ahead. That wasn't the case though.

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